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From: Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu>
Subject: Re: Brian May's `Re: Bugs in PGnus' article jams Gnus
Date: 08 Dec 1999 20:11:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2n9034ude3.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Brian May's message of "09 Dec 1999 11:46:52 +1100"

>>>>> "Brian" == Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au> writes:

>>>>> "ZSH" == Shenghuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> writes:

ZSH> In XEmacs (From the header of the message, I know Brian May use
ZSH> it), the message contains `\207', which is a `control-1'
ZSH> characters and some other `latin-iso8859-1' characters, therefore
ZSH> Gnus used multiply charsets to encode it. Actually, Gnus can
ZSH> handle it as `iso8859-1'. So I fixed it in latest CVS.

ZSH> In Emacs `\207' is an `ascii' characters, so such a message will
ZSH> not happen in Emacs.

Brian> I remain skeptical that this has fixed the problem. What
Brian> happens if I send mail, with another control character, that
Brian> really is non-ASCII?

`\207' is only an example. 

Brian> Why does Gnus have to split the message when it sees a 'bad'
Brian> character?

Now Gnus treats all `bad character' (can not find a MIME charset) as
ASCII. Emacs does this.

Brian> Why can't it encode the entire message, in the same way?

If characters are not in one charset.

Brian> Also, another question: when I saw the my message (from the URL
Brian> previously given), Gnus used 8 bit encoding. I thought 8 bit
Brian> encoding meant no encoding at all, and was considered a bad
Brian> idea for non-ASCII characters? Where am I wrong?

For Gnus, 8 bit encoding meant no encoding at all. Some MTA's do not
like 8 bit encoding, so they translate it to base64 or QP.  Any other
opinions?

-- 
Shenghuo


  reply	other threads:[~1999-12-09  1:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-12-07 13:38 Hannu Koivisto
1999-12-07 13:52 ` Gunnar Evermann
1999-12-07 14:06   ` Stein Arild Stromme
1999-12-07 14:21   ` Hannu Koivisto
1999-12-07 15:23     ` Laura Conrad
1999-12-07 16:01       ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-07 16:16         ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-12-07 17:09 ` Shenghuo ZHU
1999-12-07 17:45   ` Shenghuo ZHU
1999-12-07 18:18     ` Hannu Koivisto
1999-12-07 18:22       ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-12-07 18:57         ` Shenghuo ZHU
1999-12-07 19:21         ` Hannu Koivisto
1999-12-07 18:35     ` Toby Speight
1999-12-07 19:02       ` Shenghuo ZHU
1999-12-07 20:01         ` Jan Vroonhof
1999-12-08  9:18           ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-12-09  0:46     ` Brian May
1999-12-09  1:11       ` Shenghuo ZHU [this message]
1999-12-09 13:37         ` Jan Vroonhof
1999-12-09 14:14           ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-09 15:46           ` Jan Vroonhof
     [not found]           ` <rj9034mcb2.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.d <byr9gw2k2u.fsf@bolzano.math.ethz.ch>
1999-12-09 16:08             ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-09 19:18           ` Jan Vroonhof
1999-12-09 22:55             ` Shenghuo ZHU
1999-12-10  6:31               ` Lloyd Zusman
1999-12-10  6:42                 ` Shenghuo ZHU
     [not found]           ` <rj9034mcb2.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.d <byr9gvrkh2.fsf@bolzano.math.ethz.ch>
1999-12-10  8:19             ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-12-10  9:24             ` References (was: Re: Brian May's `Re: Bugs in PGnus' article jams Gnus) Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-10  9:59               ` Hrvoje Niksic
1999-12-10 11:52                 ` Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-10 10:24           ` Brian May's `Re: Bugs in PGnus' article jams Gnus Jan Vroonhof
1999-12-10 10:58             ` Broken References (was: Brian May's `Re: Bugs in PGnus' ...) Toby Speight
     [not found]           ` <rj9034mcb2.fsf@zuse.dina.kvl.d <byso1b14bp.fsf@bolzano.math.ethz.ch>
1999-12-10 12:06             ` Brian May's `Re: Bugs in PGnus' article jams Gnus Per Abrahamsen
1999-12-10 14:27           ` Jan Vroonhof
1999-12-10  0:46         ` Kai Großjohann
1999-12-10  3:55           ` Aaron M. Ucko

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