From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/30731 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Shenghuo ZHU Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: should mbox be opened in unibyte mode Date: 05 May 2000 13:00:40 -0400 Organization: U of Rochester Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <2ng0rxvsnb.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> References: <20000505054215.7031.qmail@duch.mimuw.edu.pl> <00May5.113140edt.115221@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035167227 10062 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:27:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED6BD051E for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAB26365; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:00:28 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 05 May 2000 11:59:56 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17867 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 11:59:46 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from shenghuo.dhs.org (d185d1eec.rochester.rr.com [24.93.30.236]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 051B7D051E for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 12:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from zsh@localhost) by shenghuo.dhs.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e45H0fh12642; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:00:41 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: ZSH X-Face: 'IF:e51ib'Qbl^(}l^&4-J`'P!@[4~O|&k#:@Gld#b/]oMq&`&FVY._3+b`mzp~Jeve~/#/ ERD!OTe<86UhyN=l`mrPY)M7_}`Ktt\K+58Z!hu7>qU,i.N7TotU[FYE(f1;}`g2xj!u*l`^&=Q!g{ *q|ddto|nkt"$r,K$[)"|6,elPH= GJ6Q In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of "05 May 2000 18:38:26 +0200" Original-Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.6 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30731 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30731 >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: Hrvoje> Stainless Steel Rat writes: >> * jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bien) on Fri, 05 May 2000 >> | `binary' is just an alias for `no-conversion'. Here's what the manual >> | says about it: >> >> binary is an alias for no-conversion in FSF Emacs. XEmacs used not >> to have a no-conversion (that may have changed). So be careful. Hrvoje> As always with Mule, things are even worse. Under Hrvoje> XEmacs/Mule, `no-conversion' means "no charset conversion", Hrvoje> but it still converts newlines. Only `binary' really means Hrvoje> binary. Hrvoje> (If you're wondering why this is so, it's not because we're Hrvoje> perverse -- this is the way things were setup in the original Hrvoje> Mule, and they got inherited by XEmacs/Mule before FSF people Hrvoje> made the swap.) IIRC, in both FSF Emacs and XEmacs, `raw-text' means "no charset conversion", but it still converts newlines. So, binary and raw-text are the right names, but no-conversion is not. -- Shenghuo