Problems with Followup, Mail-Forwarding, Reply ... :-(

Problems with Followup, Mail-Forwarding, Reply ... :-(

[Jon Allen Boone]

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Folks,

  I am now having problems with both Follow-ups, Replying and
Mail-forwarding - but only for particular messages.

  Here's a message that I can neither (R)eply to nor (F)ollow-up to,
although Mail-forwarding works for it....

  I'm including tracebacks (debug-on-quit) for (R)eply and (F)ollow-up. 

-jon


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From: prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc)
To: Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Hiding headers - sorta...
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:30:18 -0400
Message-ID: <m3wv4yax3j.fsf@multivac.cwru.edu>

Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org> writes:
>   I tried using the hide-headers feature so that I could avoid
>   having to scroll through all of the headers (often more than 30
>   lines per message....), but then I wasn't able to get at them
>   conveniently when it was important to be able to.

[t] toggles between full and abbreviated headers, and [C-u g] displays
the entire raw message.  Are these convenient enough?


paul


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Signaling: (quit)
  string-match("\\(^\\|,\\)[ 	\n]*\\([^,\n]*[!<]\\|\\)\\(\\|\\([^,.<\"]\\|\"[^\"]*\"\\)*<\\(\\)\\)[^,]*" ", Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org>, ding@gnus.org" 0)
  rmail-dont-reply-to("prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc), Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org>, ding@gnus.org")
  message-get-reply-headers(nil nil)
  message-reply(nil nil)
  gnus-summary-reply((525) nil)
  gnus-summary-reply-with-original(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-reply-with-original)
  recursive-edit()
  byte-code("..." [print-escape-newlines print-length debugger-buffer debugger-value standard-output debugger-args pop-to-buffer erase-buffer t 50 backtrace debugger-mode re-search-forward "\n[* ] debug(" 1 debugger-reenable (lambda debug) "Entering:\n" debug backtrace-debug 3 delete-char ?\* 0 exit "Return value: " prin1 ?\n ?\  error "Signaling: " "Beginning evaluation of function call form:\n" nil message "" recursive-edit buffer-read-only inhibit-trace] 3)
  debug(error (quit))

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  string-match("\\(^\\|,\\)[ 	\n]*\\([^,\n]*[!<]\\|\\)\\(\\|\\([^,.<\"]\\|\"[^\"]*\"\\)*<\\(\\)\\)[^,]*" ", tex@delamancha.org" 0)
  rmail-dont-reply-to("ding@gnus.org, tex@delamancha.org")
  message-get-reply-headers(t nil)
  message-reply(nil t)
  message-wide-reply(nil)
  gnus-post-news(nil "gnus" [525 "Re: Hiding headers - sorta..." "prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc)" "Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:30:18 -0400" "<m3wv4yax3j.fsf@multivac.cwru.edu>" "<m38zhe6q0t.fsf@amicus.delamancha.org>" 432 12 "amicus.delamancha.org gnus:525" nil] "*Article*" (525) nil nil)
  gnus-summary-followup((525) nil)
  gnus-summary-followup-with-original(nil)
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-followup-with-original)
  recursive-edit()
  byte-code("..." [print-escape-newlines print-length debugger-buffer debugger-value standard-output debugger-args pop-to-buffer erase-buffer t 50 backtrace debugger-mode re-search-forward "\n[* ] debug(" 1 debugger-reenable (lambda debug) "Entering:\n" debug backtrace-debug 3 delete-char ?\* 0 exit "Return value: " prin1 ?\n ?\  error "Signaling: " "Beginning evaluation of function call form:\n" nil message "" recursive-edit buffer-read-only inhibit-trace] 3)

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Jon Allen Boone
tex@delamancha.org

Re: Problems with Followup, Mail-Forwarding, Reply ... :-(

[Paul Jarc]

Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org> writes:
>   I am now having problems with both Follow-ups, Replying and
> Mail-forwarding - but only for particular messages.

The example message you gave has a Mail-Followup-To header field.  You
might check if that's common among the problematic messages.

> Signaling: (quit)
>   string-match("\\(^\\|,\\)[ 	\n]*\\([^,\n]*[!<]\\|\\)\\(\\|\\([^,.<\"]\\|\"[^\"]*\"\\)*<\\(\\)\\)[^,]*" ", Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org>, ding@gnus.org" 0)
>   rmail-dont-reply-to("prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc), Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org>, ding@gnus.org")

It looks like you're hitting an infinite loop in rmail-dont-reply-to.
What is the value of rmail-dont-reply-to-names?  What version of Gnus
and Emacs are you using?


paul

Re: Problems with Followup, Mail-Forwarding, Reply ... :-(

[Jon Allen Boone]

prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:

> Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org> writes:
>>   I am now having problems with both Follow-ups, Replying and
>> Mail-forwarding - but only for particular messages.
> 
>    The example message you gave has a Mail-Followup-To header field.
>  You might check if that's common among the problematic messages.

    Yes - in fact, I couldn't Reply to you until I removed the
  Mail-Followup-To header from your message.  Once I did that, the Reply
  worked.  Followups still don't work, but... :-)

>>   Signaling: (quit)
>>     string-match("\\(^\\|,\\)[ 	\n]*\\([^,\n]*[!<]\\|\\)\\(\\| \
>>     \\([^,.<\"]\\|\"[^\"]*\"\\)*<\\(\\)\\)[^,]*" ", Jon Allen Boone
>>     <tex@delamancha.org>, ding@gnus.org" 0)
>>   rmail-dont-reply-to("prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc), Jon Allen Boone
>>     <tex@delamancha.org>, ding@gnus.org") 
> 
>     It looks like you're hitting an infinite loop in
>   rmail-dont-reply-to.  What is the value of
>   rmail-dont-reply-to-names?

""

>   What version of Gnus and Emacs are you using?

Oort Gnus v0.04 [not CVS updated for at least 48 hours]
XEmacs 21.1 (patch 14) \"Cuyahoga Valley\" XEmacs Lucid

    XEmacs version hasn't changed since the Followup problem began, but
  I did switch to a newer Gnus.  

-jon
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Jon Allen Boone
tex@delamancha.org

Re: Problems with Followup, Mail-Forwarding, Reply ... :-(

[Paul Jarc]

Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org> writes:
> prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:
>>    The example message you gave has a Mail-Followup-To header field.
>>  You might check if that's common among the problematic messages.
> 
> Yes - in fact, I couldn't Reply to you until I removed the I
> couldn't Reply to you until I removed the Mail-Followup-To header
> from your message.  Once I did that, the Reply worked.  Followups
> still don't work, but... :-)

Hmm.  What is the value of message-use-mail-followup-to?  Do you have
this problem with all those *and* only those message that have MFT?

>>   What is the value of rmail-dont-reply-to-names?
> 
> ""

Actually, I should have asked about message-dont-reply-to-names.  But
that value looks bad.  Is it really an empty string, or just nil?
What are you intending to accomplish with that value?


paul

Re: Problems with Followup, Mail-Forwarding, Reply ... :-(

[Jon Allen Boone]

prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:

>    Hmm.  What is the value of message-use-mail-followup-to?

t

>    Do you have this problem with all those *and* only those message
>  that have MFT?

    I can reply to any message except on with the Mail-Followup-To
  header without problems.

    Interestingly, it seems like t is a bogus value and that it should
  be use or ask or nil, right?

>>>   What is the value of rmail-dont-reply-to-names?
>> 
>> ""
> 
>    Actually, I should have asked about message-dont-reply-to-names.
>  But that value looks bad.  Is it really an empty string, or just nil?
>   What are you intending to accomplish with that value?

    Well, it is actually an empty-string.  And what I would like to have
  happen is to prevent my email address(es) from being automatically
  excluded from the Cc: fields when I Reply or Followup.

-jon
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Jon Allen Boone
tex@delamancha.org

Re: Problems with Followup, Mail-Forwarding, Reply ... :-(

[Paul Jarc]

Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org> writes:
> prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:
>>    Hmm.  What is the value of message-use-mail-followup-to?
> 
> t
...
>     Interestingly, it seems like t is a bogus value and that it should
>   be use or ask or nil, right?

Anything other than nil or 'ask Just Happens To produce the same
behavior as 'use.  The default is t, but it probably ought to be 'use,
since the behaavior is documented only for 'use, 'ask, and nil.  Can
someone fix this in CVS?

>   And what I would like to have happen is to prevent my email
>   address(es) from being automatically excluded from the Cc: fields
>   when I Reply or Followup.

See my other message.


paul

Re: Problems with Followup, Mail-Forwarding, Reply ... :-(

[ShengHuo ZHU]

prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:

> Jon Allen Boone <tex@delamancha.org> writes:
>> prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:
>>>    Hmm.  What is the value of message-use-mail-followup-to?
>> 
>> t
> ...
>>     Interestingly, it seems like t is a bogus value and that it should
>>   be use or ask or nil, right?
> 
> Anything other than nil or 'ask Just Happens To produce the same
> behavior as 'use.  The default is t, but it probably ought to be 'use,
> since the behaavior is documented only for 'use, 'ask, and nil.  Can
> someone fix this in CVS?

Fixed.

ShengHuo