From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/31258 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Shenghuo ZHU Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Message forwarding annoyance and message-forward-show-mml Date: 02 Jun 2000 08:52:25 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <2npuq0xn1y.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035167693 13018 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:34:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:34:53 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B192D051E for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:50:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAC21579; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:50:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 02 Jun 2000 07:49:27 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14420 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:49:17 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from shenghuo.dhs.org (d185d1e79.rochester.rr.com [24.93.30.121]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5DAD051E for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from zsh@localhost) by shenghuo.dhs.org (8.10.0/8.10.0) id e52CqP429648; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:52:25 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: ZSH X-Face: 'IF:e51ib'Qbl^(}l^&4-J`'P!@[4~O|&k#:@Gld#b/]oMq&`&FVY._3+b`mzp~Jeve~/#/ ERD!OTe<86UhyN=l`mrPY)M7_}`Ktt\K+58Z!hu7>qU,i.N7TotU[FYE(f1;}`g2xj!u*l`^&=Q!g{ *q|ddto|nkt"$r,K$[)"|6,elPH= GJ6Q In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of "02 Jun 2000 09:50:13 +0200" Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.6 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31258 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:31258 >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: [...] Hrvoje> Looking for ways to break the legs of "helpful" MML-ification of Hrvoje> forwarded messages, I stumble upon `message-forward-show-mml'. Great, Hrvoje> said I, setting this to nil will surely make things sensible again. Hrvoje> But what do I get: Hrvoje> <$part type=message/rfc822 disposition=inline buffer=" *Gnus forward*<3>"> Hrvoje> <$/part> Hrvoje> (# intentionally transformed to $) Hrvoje> Now I don't even get to *see* the message I'm forwarding. If it's not Hrvoje> MML, I'm not supposed to see it at all lest I be made into a pillar of Hrvoje> salt by raw MIME. And I don't even want to know about the "<3>" Hrvoje> following the buffer name. Hrvoje> Could this please be fixed to behave sensibly, specifically so that Hrvoje> pressing `S o m' inserts this: Hrvoje> <$part type=message/rfc822 disposition=inline> Hrvoje> ... *raw* message (except for quoting of MML-like keywords ... Hrvoje> <$/part> Hrvoje> Pretty please? What is the definition of the *raw* message? What if the original message contains non-ASCII characters or other base64- or qp-encoded parts? If not decoded, it is still non-readable. If decoded, it has to be re-encoded when you send it. Shenghuo