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Roman Belenov <roman@nstl.nnov.ru> writes:

> I'm considering creating an account on of of webmail servers. I've got
> two questions :
> 
> 1) What server from those handled by Gnus is "the best" ? Main
>    criterions are stability (interface wasn't changed for a long time
>    so I can hope that Gnus will be able to fetch mail from it
>    tommorrow) and availability (server should be online most of the
>    time :-).

usa.net(netaddress.com) or webmail.netscape.com did not change their
format since I wrote webmail, but hotmail and my-deja support to fetch
the raw messages, which could avoid the error in translating html
format to Unix mail format.  The availabilities of them are OK.

> 2) How stable is webmail support in Gnus ? Help says that "Mails may
> lost" - how often does it happen ?

Losing mails does not virtually happen, but the problem is that, when
the server changes its html format, webmail may or may not complain
the format, so you have to check the mails in browser if you don't
receive mails for several days.

Also, webmail may complain the format if the server is down or
timeout.  It is difficult to fix because I am not sure what the format
error messages are.

Being a beta tester, you'd better 

    (setq webmail-error-function 'webmail-debug)

~/.emacs-webmail-debug may help to trace the debug.

Shenghuo