From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/22375 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lconrad@world.std.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: comments on pgnus-v0.80 Date: 10 Apr 1999 07:19:11 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <31366.2605396987$1042194522@news.gmane.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035160306 28994 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:31:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12111 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAB10324; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:29:17 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:26:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA25704 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:25:58 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12081 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (STD1.2/BZS-8-1.0) id HAA22532; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from 10.0.2.15 (world.std.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA15193; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:25:15 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 9527 invoked by uid 500); 10 Apr 1999 11:19:12 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: #0j-Ll[fajrfupWYMv&wa\m7!Sh=&3;JE-_&M-L,ULz(aE8iu%m1SHa5wG.V{3B:Fdnd/T# O -}0pPGYw%t1z`o&T_c=)p8l[}7R\={[@B*Jyj*.L4 hnJ*AXb In-Reply-To: SL Baur's message of "08 Apr 1999 04:53:06 -0700" Original-Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22375 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:22375 >>>>> "sb" == SL Baur writes: sb> Jan Vroonhof writes in ding@gnus.org: >> SL Baur writes: >>> This is nice, but how would I explain it to my mom[1]? I >>> really want my mom to use Gnus. >> I think that you should tell your mother not use alpha-grade >> software :-). It simply isn't finished yet. sb> :-) I know that. I think this is an important point -- yes, pgnus is alpha software which isn't yet usable by lots of people who use netscape, but it it a design goal that when it is "ready" it will be? I would think that one thing that would have to happen before this would be the case would be that the documentation would have to be written differently. For instance, I make my living being able to figure out software from reading the documentation, and I still can't get the gnus agent to work. (This is one of the features gnus allegedly has that netscape users might want.) A couple of sentences that I think need some amplification: * First, set up Gnus as you would do if you were running it on a machine that has full connection to the net. What does this mean? What needs to work when I'm connected to the net, before I add the (gnus-agentize) line? The main way to control what is to be downloaded is to create a "category" and then assign some (or all) groups to this category. It might be more useful to the new user to explain what the default category does and why, and then explain how and why to create one that does something different. -- Laura (mailto:lconrad@world.std.com , http://www.world.std.com/~lconrad/ ) (617) 661-8097 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139