From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55021 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Simon Josefsson" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Replace starttls.el with GNUTLS based version? Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:49:42 +0100 (CET) Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <39997.217.208.175.28.1070308182.squirrel@yxa.extundo.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070308211 11860 80.91.224.253 (1 Dec 2003 19:50:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3561@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Dec 01 20:50:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQu3d-00033V-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:50:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AQu3J-0006C4-00; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:49:49 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AQu3F-0006Bz-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:49:45 -0600 Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com (178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net [217.13.230.178]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA2E3A003A for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:49:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB1Jngrh013392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:49:42 +0100 Original-Received: (from apache@localhost) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.10/8.12.1/Submit) id hB1JngWv013391; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:49:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: yxa.extundo.com: apache set sender to jas@extundo.com using -f Original-Received: from 217.208.175.28 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jas) by yxa.extundo.com with HTTP; Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:49:42 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.0 [CVS] X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55021 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55021 >> The external program 'starttls' isn't widely available (e.g., not >> packaged by Debian) and it uses OpenSSL, so I would like to replace >> the current starttls.el with a (partially) backwards compatible >> version that uses GNUTLS. > > I built 'starttls' from source on Cygwin/Windows XP and it works > fine. Ah, I don't recall hearing about success reports on Windows. > However, if GNUTLS is more widely used, I'd rather rely on > something less home-grown than 'starttls.' Have you been able to try the new starttls.el? You need a fairly recent gnutls-cli though (0.9.90 or later, better get the latest development version). For IMAP, I believe it is safe, for SMTP I have been experiencing some negotiation problems, but it works under the debugger.