From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/38568 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Piper Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How to help debug numerous crashes of 21.4.4 on Windows? Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 19:00:46 -0700 Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20010903190017.00b43aa0@san-francisco.beasys.com> References: <8zfwxo6t.fsf@oce.orst.edu> <86u1ylpe0a.fsf@earthlink.net> <1ylpz61s.fsf@oce.orst.edu> <15250.55083.448859.484206@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8zfwxo6t.fsf@oce.orst.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174410 23198 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:26:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?Q?Großjohann?= ), dmkarr@earthlink.net (David M. Karr), xemacs-beta@xemacs.org, ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 5118 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2001 02:36:12 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO beamail.beasys.com) (63.96.163.102) by gnus.org with SMTP; 4 Sep 2001 02:36:12 -0000 Original-Received: from san-francisco.beasys.com (san-francisco.beasys.com [192.168.9.10]) by beamail.beasys.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02241; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from shalom.bea.com (wsp001327wss.beasys.com [192.168.6.158]) by san-francisco.beasys.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA21458; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:05:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: andyp@san-francisco.beasys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Original-To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Jody Klymak In-Reply-To: <15252.11842.757706.365194@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Original-Lines: 34 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38568 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38568 Can you point me at the 21.5 change that is supposed to deal with this? Thanks andy At 10:28 AM 9/4/01 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > >>>>> "JMK" =3D=3D Jody Klymak writes: > > JMK> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > >> "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > >> > >>> This is a known bug, it's the reason that using 21.4.4 is > >>> deprecated on Windows. > >> Ah! Well, everything is clear, then, I think. > > JMK> Yes, except I'm using 21.4.3... > >Right. It's not just in 21.4.4, but something about 21.4.4 means it >gets tickled far more often. Apparently Jody always gets clobbered in >21.4.3 but most other people didn't. > >See the thread "Call Stack for Window..." starting around July 24 for >more details, but basically it's a problem that a structure containing >live Lisp pointers was getting collected too early. Messing with GC >is inherently destabilizing; I'm not going to apply patches >willy-nilly. > >-- >University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN >Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 >_________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ >What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."