new groups are split, but not displayed automatically

new groups are split, but not displayed automatically

[dave-mlist]

When my split function finds a message in a group that hasn't been
used before, gnus automatically creates that group.  That's great.
But when I'm looking at my *Group* buffer, the newly created group is
not listed.  I can find them by pressing "j <space>" to get a list of
all groups.  But I would rather that newly created groups get
automatically subscribed.  How do I set that?

Dave

Re: new groups are split, but not displayed automatically

[dave-mlist]

> > But when I'm looking at my *Group* buffer, the newly created group is
> > not listed.
> 
> The `F' command will query backends for new groups and subscribe them.

No, actually it doesn't.  I just tried it.  I had a new nnml group called
"linux-kernel" which I was not subscribed to.  I pressed "F" and it said
something like "No new newsgroups."  Then I pressed "j <space>" and saw
linux-kernel in the list.  I typed "linux-kernel" and hit return.  The
linux-kernel group popped up with many unread messages, and was marked with a
"Z" in the *Groups* buffer.  I typed a "U" to subscribe the group (ironic), and
was finally able to read it.  There has to be an easier way!

Dave

Re: new groups are split, but not displayed automatically

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

dave-mlist@bfnet.com writes:

> But when I'm looking at my *Group* buffer, the newly created group is
> not listed.

The `F' command will query backends for new groups and subscribe them.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: new groups are split, but not displayed automatically

[Brian May]

>>>>> "dave-mlist" == dave-mlist  <dave-mlist@bfnet.com> writes:

    >> > But when I'm looking at my *Group* buffer, the newly created
    >> group is > not listed.
    >> 
    >> The `F' command will query backends for new groups and
    >> subscribe them.

    dave-mlist> No, actually it doesn't.  I just tried it.  I had a
    dave-mlist> new nnml group called "linux-kernel" which I was not
    dave-mlist> subscribed to.  I pressed "F" and it said something

The F command always has worked for me (PGnus 0.98). Perhaps
something broke in 0.99?

Otherwise, does restarting PGnus (with R) or exiting and
restarting show the group?

    dave-mlist> like "No new newsgroups."  Then I pressed "j <space>"
    dave-mlist> and saw linux-kernel in the list.  I typed
    dave-mlist> "linux-kernel" and hit return.  The linux-kernel group
    dave-mlist> popped up with many unread messages, and was marked
    dave-mlist> with a "Z" in the *Groups* buffer.  I typed a "U" to
    dave-mlist> subscribe the group (ironic), and was finally able to
    dave-mlist> read it.  There has to be an easier way!

I have observed that behavour in 0.98, too. A bit strange that
the group is marked as a zombie, when it should be subscribed
automatically, but I can live with that.
-- 
Brian May <bmay@csse.monash.edu.au>

Re: new groups are split, but not displayed automatically

[dave-mlist]

> > But when I'm looking at my *Group* buffer, the newly created group is
> > not listed.
> 
> The `F' command will query backends for new groups and subscribe them.

OK, is there a way to make all zombie groups display?

Dave

Re: new groups are split, but not displayed automatically

[Gerd Boerrigter]

dave-mlist@bfnet.com writes:

> OK, is there a way to make all zombie groups display?

In the group buffer 'A z' will show all zombie groups which can than
be easily subscribed.

Gerd

Re: new groups are split, but not displayed automatically

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

dave-mlist@bfnet.com writes:

> > The `F' command will query backends for new groups and subscribe them.
> 
> No, actually it doesn't.  I just tried it.  I had a new nnml group called
> "linux-kernel" which I was not subscribed to.  I pressed "F" and it said
> something like "No new newsgroups."  Then I pressed "j <space>" and saw
> linux-kernel in the list.  I typed "linux-kernel" and hit return.  The
> linux-kernel group popped up with many unread messages, and was marked with a
> "Z" in the *Groups* buffer.

If the group was a zombie, then it already is known to Gnus.  The
default subscription method is `gnus-subscribe-zombies'.  `A z' to
list the zombies.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen