From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/61230 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ben Wing Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Speed difference in Gnus Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:02:37 -0500 Message-ID: <4360272D.8080008@xemacs.org> References: <87r7ap899o.fsf@xemacs.org> <434EFD44.7030601@xemacs.org> <877jcgub0f.fsf@xemacs.org> <434F3897.3050007@xemacs.org> <873bn4tptq.fsf@xemacs.org> <87d5m89wuf.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y84nyuo0.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <873bmulscb.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87pspypwzv.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87fyqqdfhq.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <85zmoy22o5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ll0ihqn1.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87ek697ag9.fsf@Jesper-Harders-Computer.local> <85oe5dqmhi.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <8764rkr5cp.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1130376659 10225 80.91.229.2 (27 Oct 2005 01:30:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Original-X-From: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Thu Oct 27 03:30:57 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EUwap-0000n7-Kr for gexb-xemacs-beta@gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 03:30:12 +0200 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9R1Tr2M025315; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:57 -0400 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9R1TqG7025309 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: (from xemacweb@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j9R1TqFB025308 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:52 -0400 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (ident-user@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9R1Tls9025290 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:47 -0400 Original-Received: (from mailnull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j9R1TlRG025288 for xemacweb@tux.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:47 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j9R1Tl10025279 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:47 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 99794 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2005 01:03:01 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.1.35?) (benwing@sbcglobal.net@67.65.10.100 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2005 01:03:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Uwe Brauer In-Reply-To: <8764rkr5cp.fsf@mat.ucm.es> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [0.0.0.0]); Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Greylist: Delayed for 00:26:39 by milter-greylist-1.6 (gwyn.tux.org [199.184.165.136]); Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:29:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on gwyn.tux.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-XEmacs-List: beta X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on gwyn.tux.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL, RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Errors-To: xemacs-beta-bounces@xemacs.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:20914 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61230 Archived-At: Uwe Brauer wrote: >>>>>>"David" == David Kastrup writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> "David" == David Kastrup writes: > >>> > David> M-x elp-results RET > >>> > >>> Thanks, this function also exists in xemacs (and I did not know > >>> about it), in any case the information is very aehm spare: > >> > >> You should probably also instrument the `nnml', `imap', `mm' and `mml' > >> packages (and maybe some more depending on which operation you're > >> benchmarking -- I don't recall). > > > David> And it helps to run the test first before instrumenting it: that way > David> not only the autoloads get instrumented. > >Ok, thanks, I think now more or less I know how to proceed. As I said >before the situation is sort of strange: for a certain amount of msg, >say n, both emacsen are almost equal, gnu emacs a little faster, once >the number of msg > n, then xemacs got stacked. > > it would be very nice to know where the problem is. sometimes typing Control-Shift-G in XEmacs will break out and give you a backtrace. (it should always do that but maybe sometimes doesn't ...) If not, try setting Options->Troubleshooting->Debug on Quit, then manually do `kill -INT ###', where ### is the process id of XEmacs. (maybe it's `kill -SIGINT ###', i forget) >I should add, that the information of the elp packages is detailed the >profile-command of xemacs gives far more information. I don't know how >important profiling is for emacs, but may that pkg could be ported? > > the problem is that the XEmacs profile stuff depends on C support, which is how it's able to do all the nifty things it does. ben