From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/30610 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jsbien@mimuw.edu.pl (Janusz S. Bien) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: =?koi8-r?b?8NLPwsEg0MXSwQ==?= 1 =?iso-8859-1?q?Pr=F4b=E1_p=E8r=E5?= 2 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 08:46:00 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <4k9D5sdXbKND091yn@mimuw.edu.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035167122 9388 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:25:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Shenghuo ZHU , Vladimir Volovich Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A35BD0523 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAB08286; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:09:24 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 03 May 2000 01:08:45 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00086 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 01:08:37 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from duch.mimuw.edu.pl (duch.mimuw.edu.pl [193.0.96.2]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BFEB8D0523 for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 02:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 12369 invoked by uid 1009); 3 May 2000 06:06:38 -0000 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 56 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30610 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30610 Shenghuo ZHU writes: >>>>>> "VV" == Vladimir Volovich writes: > >VV> The "*Raw MIME preview ...*" buffer is not in raw encoding but in ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >VV> cyrillic-koi8 (status line contains "-R:%*"). This seems to be a common confusion (I am sensitive to it because it took me quite long to realize it myself). The notion of encoding (coding system) does not apply to the buffer content. Setting the coding system to `cyrillic-koi8' affects only how the buffer context will be represented when you save it in a file, put it in a kill-ring etc. C-U C-X = allows you to check whether it is at all possible to represent a character with the current coding system. >It is because Emacs can not render some 8bit characters right. There are only two kinds of buffer: multibyte and unibyte. In multibyte buffer (as I mentioned in one of my previous postings) some 8-bit characters are interpreted as `leading bytes' starting a multibyte representation of a character. You cannot set a coding system for a unibyte buffer. If you see "-R" (or just "--") in the status line, this means that you are looking at a multibyte buffer. >It is OK for me, possibly because I am using chinese-iso-8bit. >Anyway, I force Gnus use a binary buffer to send mails, so please test ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >it again after checking out the CVS version. In other words, you use a unibyte buffer to send mails, and in a unibyte buffer all 8-bit characters are just 8-bit characters. So your solution used for `chinese-iso-8bit' should work also for `cyrillic-koi8'. Best regards Janusz --------------------------------------------------------------------- , dr hab. Janusz S. Bien, prof. UW Prof. Janusz S. Bien, Warsaw Uniwersity --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Na tym koncie czytam i wysylam poczte i wiadomosci offline - prosze nie oczekiwac szybkiej odpowiedzi! Data w naglowku to data rozpoczecia pisania listu, a nie jego wyslania. --------------------------------------------------------------------- On this account I read/post mail/news offline - do not expect an immediate answer! The date in the header refers to the moment when I started to write the letter, not to the moment when I sent it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------