From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54455 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus and Outlook and spam? Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:59:28 -0500 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4n1xsycs7j.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> References: <863cdldm6j.fsf@slowfox.dyndns.org> <4nn0bskkge.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <76brs7q5yz.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <4nismfkg7b.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <76y8vbonov.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <4nr813n46u.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <76llraep1k.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067288943 30673 80.91.224.253 (27 Oct 2003 21:09:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2996@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Oct 27 22:09:01 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEEbk-0004tl-00 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 22:09:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AEEbX-0002Pi-00; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:08:47 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AEETH-0002N2-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:00:15 -0600 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (clifford.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.41]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBAB3A005B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:00:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (lockgroove [134.174.9.133]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h9RKxn701819; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:59:49 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.0) id h9RKxSD14118; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 15:59:28 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Jake Colman X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: Jake Colman , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <76llraep1k.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> (Jake Colman's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 2003 09:35:51 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54455 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54455 On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, colman@ppllc.com wrote: >>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov writes: > > TZ> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, colman@ppllc.com wrote: > >> But spam-stats is not for nnimap, if I read it correctly. > > TZ> I think it will work for any backend. If not, we can fix > TZ> that - report any bugs you find. > > I'm glad to hear that but I think the info file for the latest > official release of gnus (v5.10.2) says otherwise. Please point that out. You may be referring to the note for IMAP users, which relates to statistical filters, but that's not a problem with IMAP per se, it's just a setting (nnimap-split-download-body) that you need to turn on. > BTW does 5.10.2 have good support for spam.el or do I need to use > the latest version from cvs? spam.el is a work in progress. Don't use CVS if you don't want to - but the CVS version is always the one with more old bugs fixed and more features (it may have new bugs, but I try not to repeat the old ones :) > If spam-stats works with nnimap should I just use it or would > bogofilter, if I don't mind installing it, be a better choice? This is entirely up to you. They are two different tools with different algorithms and advantages. spam.el tries to accomodate both, but the choice is yours. > ;; nnimap split rules > > (setq nnimap-split-inbox "INBOX") > (setq nnimap-split-crosspost nil) > (setq nnimap-split-rule > '( > ; Emacs > ("INBOX/Emacs/Help" > "^To:.*help-gnu-emacs\\|^Resent-From:.*help-gnu-emacs\\|^Cc:.*help-gnu-emacs") > ("INBOX/Emacs/Gnus" > "^Resent-From:.*info-gnus-english\\|^To:.*info-gnus-english") > ... > ... > ... > ("INBOX/Misc" "") > )) > > How do I convert from this to what I need to do to use bogofilter? ;; this is a very rough approximation, read the fancy splitting docs ;; if you want to know more (setq nnimap-split-fancy '(| (any "help-gnu-emacs" "INBOX/Emacs/Help") (any "info-gnus-english" "INBOX/Emacs/Gnus") ... ... ... ... (: spam-split) ("INBOX/Misc"))) (setq spam-use-bogofilter t) (spam-initialize) Ted