From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47498 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: posting-charset abolition Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:30:07 -0500 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <4n3cqmy93k.fsf@benko.bwh.harvard.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036074684 24924 80.91.224.249 (31 Oct 2002 14:31:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 187GLz-0006Tq-00 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:31:23 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 187GLY-0007p4-00; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:30:56 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:31:41 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA18202 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:31:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 22889 invoked by alias); 31 Oct 2002 14:30:36 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 22884 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2002 14:30:35 -0000 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (134.174.9.41) by gnus.org with SMTP; 31 Oct 2002 14:30:35 -0000 Original-Received: from benko.bwh.harvard.edu (benko [134.174.9.34]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9VEU7w25990 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:30:07 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by benko.bwh.harvard.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.0) id g9VEU7e00238; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:30:07 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:38:57 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47498 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47498 On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, yamaoka@jpl.org wrote: > You are right. Putting CTE:8 to 7-bit articles is absolutely > harmless. However, it is closely reminded of vicious MUAs > rampant all over the world. Possibly they became better than > ancient times, though. (In old days, Japanese mails were in a > wretched condition.) Although this is no more than a personal > matter of taste, it is worthwhile to delete an excessive header, > isn't it? > > rfc1521.txt: > ..."Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT" is assumed if the > Content-Transfer-Encoding header field is not present. > > So, I want to do that if it is not a burden on Gnus. I think the simplest programmatic solution is to scan the message buffer right before sending, when it's already encoded, and add the CTE: 8bit header if any 8-bit characters are detected. But I still think this is unnecessary work for other than aesthetic reasons, as very few MTAs today do 7bit CTE, and setting the header to 8bit is harmless to 7bit data. I don't understand the statement about "vicious MUAs rampant." -- Ted Zlatanov