From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59770 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ted Zlatanov" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gmail-like mail backend? Date: 10 Feb 2005 12:48:56 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <4n7jlgcnlj.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108058213 26206 80.91.229.2 (10 Feb 2005 17:56:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M8311@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Feb 10 18:56:52 2005 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CzIT2-0004RS-PC for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:51:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CzIRP-0001bS-00; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:49:23 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CzIRH-0001bM-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:49:15 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CzIR8-0002qm-LN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:49:06 -0600 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu ([134.174.9.41] helo=mail.bwh.harvard.edu) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CzIR1-0006Eb-00 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:48:59 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 2747 invoked from network); 10 Feb 2005 17:48:42 -0000 Envelope-Sender: tzz@lifelogs.com Envelope-Recipients: miles@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, Original-Received: from asimov.bwh.harvard.edu (HELO asimov) (internal?.8?user:?tzz@[134.174.8.118]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.bwh.harvard.edu (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Feb 2005 17:48:41 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: "Miles Bader" , ding@gnus.org Original-To: "Miles Bader" X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" X-Hashcash: 1:20:050210:ding@gnus.org::tzwj/XjNSc9Fr1/i:00000a4C X-Hashcash: 1:20:050210:miles@gnu.org::KhLD5tRYkHfUKxEa:00003svO In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 09 Feb 2005 17:08:10 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.8 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on sysblade0.bwh.harvard.edu X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu X-MailScanner-From: ding-owner+m8311@lists.math.uh.edu X-MailScanner-To: ding-account@gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59770 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59770 On Wed, 09 Feb 2005, miles@lsi.nec.co.jp wrote: > I've come to really like the gmail notion of "groups" (really called > "labels") actually just being views into a big pool of messages, so that > a single message can easily exist in many groups, and things that happen > to that message (mark it as read, delete it) are immediately visible in > all relevant groups. Another nice thing (in general) is that it ends to > operate on threads as a whole, rather than individual messages; e.g., if > you add a particular "label" to a thread, subsequent replies that arrive > in that same thread show up in all relevant labels/groups, without the > need to add classify them. Moving threads around is very lightweight. > > I wonder how hard would it be to have somethings niceness in gnus? > > Gnus already has the notion of crossposts from news, but the pervasive > use of group-specific article-number ranges seems somewhat problematic. > > Anyway just food for thought. I like using Emacs to read email a lot > more than using a web-browser, but Gnus is seeming a bit clunky at the > moment compared to gmail... Look at my previous posts in ding on "message labels" that someone was going to implement. This can be done with the registry - just associate the labels as extra data with the message ID, and you can find the message by the message ID. Ted