From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52896 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Skip intermediate mbox file in mail-sources? Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:55:03 -0400 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4n7k8aewag.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> References: <87d6i43wgs.fsf@cag.lcs.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054148011 6504 80.91.224.249 (28 May 2003 18:53:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 18:53:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1440@lists.math.uh.edu Wed May 28 20:53:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19L63E-0001gd-00 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 20:53:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19L64w-0003li-00; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:55:14 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19L64o-0003lc-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:55:06 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 56067 invoked by alias); 28 May 2003 18:55:05 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 56062 invoked from network); 28 May 2003 18:55:05 -0000 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (134.174.9.41) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 28 May 2003 18:55:05 -0000 Original-Received: from lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (lockgroove [134.174.9.133]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h4SIt3I27633; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.0) id h4SIt3J01768; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: David Z Maze X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: David Z Maze , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87d6i43wgs.fsf@cag.lcs.mit.edu> (David Z. Maze's message of "Tue, 27 May 2003 17:34:27 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52896 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52896 On Tue, 27 May 2003, dmaze@MIT.EDU wrote: > Is there a reason the intermediate mbox file is necessary? (I could > entirely believe that, once upon a time, GNUS only grokked mbox > format, and "translate anything to mbox" was the easiest way to add > more mail sources.) With formats like directory, pop, maildir, and > imap, where you can readily fetch a message at a time, this adds an > unnecessary layer of indirection. I think it makes sense to have a uniform format for incoming mail. I don't think mbox is it, but there should be just one format. How about a message digest with MIME attachments? Gnus already has the functionality to parse those, so the backend modifications should be fairly simple. Fetching a message at a time may be inconvenient or unfeasible, so I think a format like digests that allows 1 to N attachments with minimal overhead and no quoting issues is nice. > This also results in side effects: From at the start of the line > gets the ugly mbox quoting, which really shouldn't be necessary > unless the backend is also in mbox format. MIME attachments would avoid this problem and most others with the mbox format, I think. Ted