From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55742 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: netrc.el now supports encoded files Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:58:58 -0500 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4n8ykkzw59.fsf@collins.bwh.harvard.edu> References: <4n3caut1yy.fsf@collins.bwh.harvard.edu> <2268.217.208.174.213.1073395735.squirrel@217.208.174.213> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1073419239 2419 80.91.224.253 (6 Jan 2004 20:00:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Ding Mailing List" Original-X-From: ding-owner+M4282@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jan 06 21:00:32 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AdxNP-000893-00 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:00:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AdxNH-0000TG-00; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:00:23 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AdxNC-0000TB-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:00:18 -0600 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (clifford.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.41]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCA33A0026 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:00:18 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from collins.bwh.harvard.edu (collins [134.174.9.80]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id i06Jx4718221; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:59:05 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from collins.bwh.harvard.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by collins.bwh.harvard.edu (8.12.9+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id i06JwxuB020573; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:58:59 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by collins.bwh.harvard.edu (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id i06JwwS1020570; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:58:58 -0500 (EST) Original-To: "Simon Josefsson" X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: "Simon Josefsson" , "Ding Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <2268.217.208.174.213.1073395735.squirrel@217.208.174.213> (Simon Josefsson's message of "Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:28:55 +0100 (CET)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55742 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55742 On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, jas@extundo.com wrote: > IMHO, use GnuPG instead of OpenSSL. I'm trying to remove the last > OpenSSL dependencies from Gnus (ssl.el and sha1-el.el are done, I'm > working on starttls.el, smime.el is the next step). Perhaps > supporting OpenSSL as well is OK, but I think the defaults should be > to use GNU tools where available. Sure. I don't use GnuPG, so if someone who does could give me the command lines I'll be glad to add the Lisp code to netrc.el. Actually I may move it all to gnus-encrypt.el or something like that. > I wrote an elisp AES implementation some time ago > () but I'm not sure using it is a good > idea, password based file encryption is more complicated than the > block cipher primitive. That looks useful in theory, but it's very slow. I was hoping for a faster cipher. Should I just turn down rijndael-monte-carlo-limit and rijndael-monte-carlo-loop or would that make the cipher significantly less secure? I don't know AES so I can't judge that. The interface is pretty complicated (the string and key lengths are limited). Can we have a simple encrypt/decrypt function? rijndael.el is not (currently) part of Gnus or Emacs, is that a problem? How should I connect it to gnus-encrypt.el, with autoloads? Sorry for the many questions :) Thanks Ted