From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58899 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ted Zlatanov" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How about a Gnus Bugzilla? Date: 15 Oct 2004 11:08:31 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nbrf4c93k.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87u0sxblwl.fsf@dod.no> <4nacupgmvt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zn2p85zi.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097852965 13545 80.91.229.6 (15 Oct 2004 15:09:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 15:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7437@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Oct 15 17:09:17 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CIThl-0006qE-00 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:09:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CIThF-0002Bq-00; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:08:45 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CIThB-0002Bl-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:08:41 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CITh4-0005OE-3H for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:08:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.bwh.harvard.edu (sysblade0.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.44]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44293A0035 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:08:33 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 20115 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2004 14:58:47 -0000 Envelope-Sender: tzz@lifelogs.com Envelope-Recipients: ding@gnus.org, Original-Received: from asimov.bwh.harvard.edu (HELO asimov) (internal?.9?user:?tzz@[134.174.9.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.bwh.harvard.edu (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Oct 2004 14:58:47 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" X-Hashcash: 1:10:041015:ding@gnus.org::6b91c8378b676b03:bc1 In-Reply-To: <87zn2p85zi.fsf@dod.no> (Steinar Bang's message of "Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:17:05 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58899 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58899 On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, sb@dod.no wrote: >>>>>> "Ted Zlatanov" : > >> It's extra work to monitor and maintain Bugzilla for Gnus >> contributors. I have plenty to monitor with the 2 newsgroups and >> the mailing list, so I'm not sure this is a good idea. Maybe if it >> was read-only for outside users, so contributors could decide if a >> bug goes in. I would hate to spend my day answering questions with >> WORKSFORME and explanations like the Mozilla guys do. > > The idea of a bugtracker is to track bugs in a traceable way, which, > as far as I can tell, bugzilla does really well. > > In that context, I'm not sure I understand the problem you're > describing. Could you perhaps elaborate on it? You are forgetting the bug submission process. I don't want every Gnus user to submit bugs, only developers and qualified users. In the Mozilla project, a lot of the bugs are things that the user simply doesn't understand. If I take the burden of tracking bugs, I want to make sure they are real and not something best answered in the other Gnus forums. Just my 5 cents. Ted