From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/51999 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How many people mark spam in gmane groups? Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:28:31 -0400 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nd6j3c01c.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> References: <4n4r5aowwm.fsf@chubby.bwh.harvard.edu> <4n4r4y1jx8.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87of2urq7l.fsf@jpl.nasa.gov> <4nvfwxql0s.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87wuhddwjl.fsf@jpl.nasa.gov> <4nr87lqixn.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87brypdqzn.fsf@jpl.nasa.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051727339 24925 80.91.224.249 (30 Apr 2003 18:28:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 18:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M542@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Apr 30 20:28:57 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19AwJ9-0006P1-00 for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 20:27:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19AwJx-000321-00; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:28:45 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19AwJt-00031w-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:28:41 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 371 invoked by alias); 30 Apr 2003 18:28:39 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 366 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 18:28:39 -0000 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (134.174.9.41) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2003 18:28:39 -0000 Original-Received: from lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (lockgroove [134.174.9.133]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h3UISVI23546; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.0) id h3UISVG07779; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Jon Ericson In-Reply-To: <87brypdqzn.fsf@jpl.nasa.gov> (Jon Ericson's message of "Tue, 29 Apr 2003 12:48:44 -0700") X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: Jon Ericson , ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.09002 (Oort Gnus v0.20) Emacs/21.3 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:51999 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:51999 On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Jon.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: > Eureka! g-s-p-n was the variable I was looking for[1]. But now I'm > even more confused about s-r-g-r. It seems there are several ways > to have s-r-g invoked: > > * Set the group/topic parameter. In this case s-r-g-r is irrelevant > because you've already indicated precisely what groups are Gmane > groups. Yup. s-r-g-r was in place before the spam.el integration, that's why I left it in place. With the doc changes you mention it should be useful enough to keep. I'll try to stick a reference to spam-report.el in the manual, meanwhile. > * Set g-s-p-n to indicate a regexp matching Gmane groups and > applying the g-g-s-e-p-r-g exit processor to those groups. If the > regexp in g-s-p-n is accurate, s-r-g-r is irrelevant. Yup. > * Call s-r-g independent of spam.el. In this case, s-r-g-r might be > useful, but the documentation doesn't make any sense: > > String matching Gmane newsgroups if wanted, > e.g. "^nntp+.*:gmane."[2] This is probably handled better with > group/topic parameters. > > It'd make more sense to say something like: > > Regexp matching Gmane newsgroups. If you are using spam.el, > consider setting gnus-spam-process-newsgroups or > the gnus-group-spam-exit-processor-report-gmane group/topic > parameter instead. Go ahead and make a patch of the docs you mention here and elsewhere in this message and anything else you think needs work in spam-report.el, I'll commit the patch. > P.S. Why is the Mail-Followup-To set to "Jon Ericson > , ding@gnus.org"? When I hit 'F' to > reply, the mail was to be sent to me and CCed to the list. Is > this what is intended? No idea, I just hit 'f' on your message. > Footnotes: > [1] The comment "This only makes sense for mail groups." is now > outdated, by the way. Yup. > [2] I think this should be "^nntp\+.*:gmane\." since + and . are > special characters. Agreed. I work with Perl regular expressions too much, it tends to confuse me quite a bit when I write Lisp. Thanks Ted