From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57953 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ted Zlatanov" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: wallowing out of the spam quagmire Date: 22 Jun 2004 12:32:10 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nisdjy2np.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087923045 6579 80.91.224.253 (22 Jun 2004 16:50:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6494@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jun 22 18:50:37 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BcoTk-0005l4-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:50:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BcoTU-0003vW-00; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:50:20 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BcoTQ-0003vR-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:50:16 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BcoTP-00049f-ME for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:50:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.bwh.harvard.edu (sysblade0.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.44]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC023A003B for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:50:14 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 16938 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2004 16:43:40 -0000 Envelope-Sender: tzz@lifelogs.com Envelope-Recipients: reader@newsguy.com, ding@gnus.org, Original-Received: from asimov.bwh.harvard.edu (HELO asimov) ([134.174.9.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.bwh.harvard.edu (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jun 2004 16:43:39 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: "Harry Putnam" , ding@gnus.org Original-To: "Harry Putnam" X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: (Harry Putnam's message of "Mon, 21 Jun 2004 20:21:00 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57953 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57953 On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, reader@newsguy.com wrote: > I'm not sure we're from the same planetary system... or as bare > minimum you must have a rather bizarre notion of what `not complex' > means. I went glassy eyed after the first couple hundred lines. > > I'm introduced to black lists, black holes, hash-cash payments, > bogofilters, on line data bases, bbdb as white list, some absolutely > convoluted processing that seem to require `split fancy' which I've > never used. Some use of gnus registry, which I also have never messed > with. Many lines of variable discussion which apparently is supposed > to spell out what 2780 lines of elisp in spame.el do. Heh. The *new* spam.el is better organized and should be easier to understand. Specifically, the backend-specific code that confused you is separated from the program logic. The gnus registry integration with spam.el is optional and off by default. I agree though, the code is complex. It has to be in order to do all it does. > I guess ...Spam ELisp Package Sequence of Events > is as close as it gets.. Sounds like I need the auto-detect method > and would set G p on my single inbox group to something that tells > spam.el to `auto-detect' in it. That would be OK. The auto-detect stuff basically runs spam-split on a temporary buffer with the message. I'll follow up on your other messages too... > My case should be the simplest possible example of using spam.el and > bogofilter, but I'm not sure about involving gnus registry etc. > Or what `exactly' needs doing. > > I'm going to look for Teds patch to docs right now. The doc patch is not by me, sorry for confusing you. Ted