From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57904 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ted Zlatanov" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam.el - ham in spam groups Date: 17 Jun 2004 11:09:33 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nk6y69q6q.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <874qpbwc6k.fsf@kali.intranet> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087486134 10591 80.91.224.253 (17 Jun 2004 15:28:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6445@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jun 17 17:28:38 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bayof-0006tV-00 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 17:28:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BayoI-0007tK-00; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:28:14 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BayoD-0007tF-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:28:09 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BayoA-00014e-OS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:28:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.bwh.harvard.edu (sysblade0.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.44]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB5C3A004E for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 10512 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2004 15:21:43 -0000 Envelope-Sender: tzz@lifelogs.com Envelope-Recipients: marcelo@marcelotoledo.org, ding@gnus.org, Original-Received: from asimov.bwh.harvard.edu (HELO asimov) ([134.174.9.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.bwh.harvard.edu (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Jun 2004 15:21:43 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: "Marcelo Toledo" , ding@gnus.org Original-To: "Marcelo Toledo" X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: <874qpbwc6k.fsf@kali.intranet> (Marcelo Toledo's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:11:15 -0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57904 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57904 On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, marcelo@marcelotoledo.org wrote: > If I have ham in spam the solution I know nowdays is setting > gnus-ham-process-destinations and moving it to my reclassify group. Like > this: > > (setq gnus-ham-process-destinations > '(("nnml:spam" "nnml:reclassify"))) > > normaly I've gone through all spam and marked all ham as read, so when I > leave the group all the ham goes to nnml:reclassify, great, I get into > the reclassify group and respool everything and then it should go to the > correct groups. > > I dont know if there is a reason for this but I think all this steps > should't exist. If there is ham in spam it must be repooled again and > not moved to another group that has nothing to do with. You can do that if you wish by setting the ham-process-destination to 'respool. A lot of people (including me) like to "clone" misclassified ham in a "ham training" folder, which is much harder to do with the mechanism you propose. So respooling as an option is OK, but as the exclusive mechanism isn't. Generally the spam.el approach has been to allow everyone to do what they want with moving spam/ham around. The new spam.el is even more liberal in this regard. It has the "default" behavior which moves spam out of everywhere and ham out of spam groups; "move-none" which never moves anything; "move-all" which moves spam and ham regardless of the group classification. It is complicated but so are Gnus users :) Ted