From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57869 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ted Zlatanov" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam.el reporting and moving ham out of spam groups. Date: 7 Jun 2004 13:12:27 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nn03fpa10.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <8765akfxxt.fsf@enki.rimspace.net> <874qq4bjr2.fsf@koldfront.dk> <4naczvjha0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <877juzgcf8.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87hdu0gwij.fsf@koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086629457 22823 80.91.224.253 (7 Jun 2004 17:30:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6410@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jun 07 19:30:45 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BXNxN-00020j-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 19:30:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BXNx2-0003Zv-00; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:30:24 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BXNwy-0003Zq-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:30:20 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BXNwx-0006RD-IA for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 12:30:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.bwh.harvard.edu (sysblade0.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.44]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0974A3A003B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 12:30:17 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 24523 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2004 17:24:09 -0000 Envelope-Sender: tzz@lifelogs.com Envelope-Recipients: asjo@koldfront.dk, ding@gnus.org, Original-Received: from asimov.bwh.harvard.edu (HELO asimov) ([134.174.9.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.bwh.harvard.edu (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Jun 2004 17:24:08 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: "Adam =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F8gren?=" , ding@gnus.org Original-To: "Adam =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F8gren?=" X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: <87hdu0gwij.fsf@koldfront.dk> (Adam =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F8gren'?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?s?= message of "Fri, 28 May 2004 21:52:04 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57869 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57869 On Fri, 28 May 2004, asjo@koldfront.dk wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2004 22:29:15 +0200, Adam wrote: > On 26 May 2004 12:16:07 -0400, Ted wrote: >>> But shouldn't spam-process-ham-in-nonham-groups do this? If it >>> doesn't, there's a bug in my code. > >> I just tested with latest cvs; yes it does work. > > Uh, it gets processed, but not respooled. > Maybe I need to set "spam-move-ham-in-nonham-groups" to t? There is no such parameter now. The logic for moving ham out of spam groups is: ;; now move all ham articles out of spam groups (when (spam-group-spam-contents-p gnus-newsgroup-name) (let ((num (spam-ham-move-routine (gnus-parameter-ham-process-destination gnus-newsgroup-name)))) (when (> num 0) (gnus-message 6 "%d ham messages were moved from spam group" num))))) so it only works in spam groups. The belief is that ham is already in the right place outside of spam groups - why should you respool it? It only makes sense to process ham outside of spam groups. Anyhow, I guess this logic can be changed, but I don't think it makes sense. I'm not sure anyone but you would find it useful, and adding an extra option similar to spam-move-spam-nonspam-groups-only would complicate the code and documentation without gain for the other users. If you feel strongly about this, and/or anyone else wants to comment, feel free. I just don't want to make spam.el too esoteric. Thanks Ted