From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52442 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: No Gnus todo item Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 13:14:03 -0400 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nn0hxbbtw.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052414144 2506 80.91.224.249 (8 May 2003 17:15:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 17:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Simon Josefsson , ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M986@lists.math.uh.edu Thu May 08 19:15:40 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Doxm-0000Rs-00 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 19:13:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19DoyY-0000oO-00; Thu, 08 May 2003 12:14:34 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19DoyU-0000oJ-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 08 May 2003 12:14:30 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 53277 invoked by alias); 8 May 2003 17:14:29 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 53271 invoked from network); 8 May 2003 17:14:29 -0000 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (134.174.9.41) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 8 May 2003 17:14:29 -0000 Original-Received: from lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (lockgroove [134.174.9.133]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h48HE3I03711; Thu, 8 May 2003 13:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.0) id h48HE3020241; Thu, 8 May 2003 13:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Bill White X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: Bill White , Simon Josefsson , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Bill White's message of "Thu, 08 May 2003 11:21:08 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52442 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52442 On Thu, 08 May 2003, billw@wolfram.com wrote: > On Thu May 08 2003 at 06:07, Simon Josefsson said: > >> Pressing M-x gnus RET should load gnus, load .newsrc.eld etc, and >> display the group buffer. This shouldn't take longer than 5s. >> This is in line with the GUI design criteria "minimize time the >> user can't access the user interface". >> >> Fetching new mail, and updating the article counts should be done >> after pressing 'g'. > > That's an excellent idea! Occasionally, I get into a situation > where I need to load without downloading because I've screwed > something up, so I have to edit mail-sources temporarily to keep new > mail out of the mess. But that's confusing to new users, every MUA I have used will load new mail at startup. May I suggest either a variable like gnus-startup-without-scan or a function gnus-fast? The function seems the better solution. You startup gnus with emacs -f gnus-fast and then `g' is still bound to the gnus function so things work like they always have. In fact, it seems like the gnus function already has a dont-connect parameter. Is that not useful? Thanks Ted