From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53706 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Posting styles and negation of rules; proposal of new syntax Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:28:40 -0400 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4noeyts3nr.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1060806567 14743 80.91.224.253 (13 Aug 2003 20:29:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M2250@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Aug 13 22:29:26 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19n2FJ-0006TE-00 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 22:29:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19n2F8-0004t9-00; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:29:14 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19n2F4-0004t4-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:29:10 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 48776 invoked by alias); 13 Aug 2003 20:29:10 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 48771 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2003 20:29:10 -0000 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (134.174.9.41) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2003 20:29:10 -0000 Original-Received: from lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (lockgroove [134.174.9.133]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h7DKSeR13316 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.0) id h7DKSem05753; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:35:16 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53706 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53706 On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, jas@extundo.com wrote: > sigurd@12move.de (Karl Pfl=E4sterer) writes: >=20 >> On 11 Aug 2003, Karl Pfl=E4sterer <- sigurd@12move.de wrote: >> >> [a lot] >> >> So I see there is absolutely no interest in such a functionality. >=20 > What I'm missing is a reason NOT to install it. Is there any? It's > not backwards compatible in any way, is it? I vote for installing > it (when the, err, feature heat is over). I also prefer "not" as > the mnemonic; I don't recall seeing ! or ~ used as logical negation > in elisp related situations. I was thinking that maybe gnus-parameters and all the variables and parameters defined through gnus-define-group-parameter should take some sort of "not" notation. It won't necessarily be available through the user-visible customization page, but those who know Lisp can go in and modify it to suit them. I have no idea how complex this would be, but it does seem like some redundant code could be eliminated, and cool functionality could be added, if a general parsing approach was taken to all the various parameters and settings. Ted