Re: [Request for Correction]To Gnus team -- Gnus Info about spam

[Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>]

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, chenggao@cyberhut.org wrote:

>     I am sorry if my post gets you some red and nervous. I know,to
>     some extent, my post seems like a bit overreacted. my mistake is
>     maybe I should be more polite in wording of my original post. I
>     dont mean to accuse of you or anyone else.

You used words such as "biased" and "morons" which carry a pretty
heavy emotional load in English.  I can't help but feel that you are
taking offense at what you imagine I am thinking, rather than at the
actual content of the paragraph, since the actual content was
completely lacking in emotional content.

>     Ted> So are you complaining that I'm suggesting that there are
>     Ted> spammers in China?  [...]  Or maybe you don't like that
>     Ted> China specifically is used as an example?  I can use
>     Ted> Bulgaria, I guess, but it makes (3) and (4) above less
>     Ted> valid.
> 
>     I dont complain that. I dont mean that. And to me, it's the same
>     unfair to change China to USA or Norway or any country. 

Please, understand that it is not "unfair" to use a country as an
example, when the example does not imply anything negative about the
country, and especially when the example is 100%, undisputably,
absolutely true.  The references I posted clearly show that spam from
Asia and Korea and China in particular is perceived to be a problem.
I was trying to be nice and point out that blocking mail from China
is a bad idea.

>     To tell the truth, I read many manuals and tech-related
>     materials. I dont think it's common practice to use name of a
>     real Country or Person in the way as in Gnus *info* file which
>     we are arguing about.

I don't think any other part of the Gnus manual, or most other
technical materials, deal with geopolitical and social problems such
as spam.  Very few manuals would even make the point that blocking
spam from a whole country is a bad idea, which I was trying to do from
the beginning.

>     Every use has headache of spam problem. So every Gnus user need
>     read the *info*, and everyone will read the example with China
>     as the victim (or I should say, every user feels themself as the
>     victim of China wrongdoings).  

I think you're the only one so far that believes this.

>     I know, and everyone knows that it's JUST an example. But please
>     understand that when more and more users read the *info* and hit
>     the section, this example will be some kind of propaganda.

Because I prefer to write code, and I don't think this discussion will
go anywhere, I've changed the example to use Bulgaria.  China is
mentioned as an example among with other countries and continents.  If
you don't like that, let me know and I'll make sure China (or Asia
too, if you find that offensive as well) is not mentioned by name.  I
hope you find this satisfactory.

Thanks
Ted