From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55270 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam/ham autolearn (spamassassin) markings in summary Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:41:29 -0500 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nptemulhi.fsf@collins.bwh.harvard.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071765764 4863 80.91.224.253 (18 Dec 2003 16:42:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3810@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Dec 18 17:42:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AX1EV-00020e-00 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:42:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AX1EM-0005YA-00; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:42:30 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AX1EI-0005Y5-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:42:26 -0600 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (clifford.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.41]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260823A0037 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:42:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from collins.bwh.harvard.edu (collins [134.174.9.80]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id hBIGfU713467; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:41:30 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from collins.bwh.harvard.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by collins.bwh.harvard.edu (8.12.9+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id hBIGfTuB009883; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:41:29 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by collins.bwh.harvard.edu (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id hBIGfTFr009880; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:41:29 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Wes Hardaker X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: Wes Hardaker , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Wes Hardaker's message of "Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:07:44 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55270 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55270 On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, wes@hardakers.net wrote: > So, I just wanted to get spamassain working properly and to ensure > that all the articles it "autolearned" as spam/ham truly were. The > problem is that you have to open the article to find out. Well, > I've now done this [...] Cool. I'll probably do something similar for the next release of Gnus, as a real formatting specifier instead of a user format function. It will probably be two or three letter, one to indicate the status and the rest to indicate the backend(s) used to detect that it is spam/ham. X-Spam-Status is not a reliably way to detect spamicity, unfortunately. Blacklists or blackholes, for instance, don't leave a trace inside the message. It's better to use the gnus-registry tracking, which will automatically note when a message is tagged as spam or ham, by spam/ham processing or incoming/autodetection mail spam-splitting. See the latest spam.el, I track the spam/ham detection history of a message when I do autodetection in spam-find-spam and spam-split for instance. Ted