From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54657 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam/ham exit processors Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:28:17 -0500 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nptg8sw8u.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> References: <76ekwpy35x.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <4nllqx47mx.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87ptg9ryb2.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <87vfq15h3o.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <4nllqx16ul.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <877k2h5ds4.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067912966 32694 80.91.224.253 (4 Nov 2003 02:29:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 02:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3198@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 04 03:29:24 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGqwe-0006JL-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:29:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AGqwZ-0006lW-00; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:29:19 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AGqwV-0006lR-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:29:15 -0600 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (clifford.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.41]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5993A008A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:29:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (lockgroove [134.174.9.133]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id hA42Sg729017; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:28:42 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.0) id hA42SIH04600; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:28:18 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Russ Allbery X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: Russ Allbery , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <877k2h5ds4.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> (Russ Allbery's message of "Mon, 03 Nov 2003 13:43:23 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54657 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54657 On Mon, 03 Nov 2003, rra@stanford.edu wrote: > What happened when I set a process destination is that all the spam > would get moved into that group and show up as new unread messages > there. So when I went to do my false positive scan, I would end up > scanning through all those messages again, even though I'd already > manually confirmed that they were spam. > > And depending on how I set things up, I'd either end up registering > that spam twice (once when I moved it into that group and again when > I scanned the group for false positives), or I'd end up not > registering any spam that bogofilter stuck directly into the spam > group. I think you want an intermediate "spam" group with its process-destination set to "train", and then run spam-processors on "train" only. So all spam will flow to "spam" and then you can pop ham back out of "spam" before it all gets moved into "train." I like the "train" approach also because Bogofilter can be easily run on all those messages from the command line. Ted