From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59419 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ted Zlatanov" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: CVS update of gnus/lisp (7 files) Date: 13 Dec 2004 13:39:16 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <4nr7lu82ln.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1102963509 8655 80.91.229.6 (13 Dec 2004 18:45:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 18:45:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, "Katsumi Yamaoka" , ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7959@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Dec 13 19:44:59 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CdvBq-00008y-00 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:44:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Cdv6j-0004m6-00; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:39:41 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Cdv6f-0004m1-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:39:37 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cdv6Z-0005ql-OO for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:39:31 -0600 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu ([134.174.9.41] helo=mail.bwh.harvard.edu) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cdv6U-000804-00 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2004 19:39:26 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 21468 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2004 18:27:58 -0000 Envelope-Sender: tzz@lifelogs.com Envelope-Recipients: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org, yamaoka@jpl.org, ding@gnus.org, Original-Received: from asimov.bwh.harvard.edu (HELO asimov) (internal?.8?user:?tzz@[134.174.8.118]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.bwh.harvard.edu (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Dec 2004 18:27:56 -0000 Mail-Followup-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org, "Katsumi Yamaoka " , ding@gnus.org Original-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" X-Hashcash: 1:20:041213:snogglethorpe@gmail.com::OilOcqVIBdVGOSf0:000000000000000000000000000000000000000oJJ X-Hashcash: 1:20:041213:ding@gnus.org::b/sbu150KfZwTJb9:00004bb7 X-Hashcash: 1:20:041213:yamaoka@jpl.org::lqGGa5+RNuMaemPV:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000065uW X-Hashcash: 1:20:041213:miles@gnu.org::DErEb7M0GWff3QgZ:0000EyAO In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:27:01 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59419 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59419 On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, snogglethorpe@gmail.com wrote: >> The recent changes in gnus-registry.el[1], gnus-util.el[2], >> message.el[3] and pop3.el[4] are unwanted for the Gnus trunk >> because: > > Is there a policy that the Gnus trunk doesn't support old versions > of Emacs? I think the general policy is to code for the latest official Emacs. Backwards compatibility is nice but not imperative. This is just my understanding, though. I think supporting Emacs 20 is, realistically speaking, not desirable because of the many useful functions in Emacs 21 (like puthash) we'd have to emulate. Yes, it can be done in every source file, but why not just have a gnus-c20.el or something like that to provide the compatibility layer to Emacs 20? Moreover, is there a sizeable Emacs 20 user base we want to support rather than force into upgrading? I don't know the answers to the last question :) It seems to me from discussions here and on emacs-devel, however, that the answer is "no." Ted