From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55269 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Spam.el tutorial Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:35:10 -0500 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nu13yuls1.fsf@collins.bwh.harvard.edu> References: <87pteok281.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <4nn09sbhvy.fsf@collins.bwh.harvard.edu> <87brq8h3g0.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <877k0wh39f.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <4nekv4be8i.fsf@collins.bwh.harvard.edu> <4n8ylbgzj1.fsf@collins.bwh.harvard.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071765519 4302 80.91.224.253 (18 Dec 2003 16:38:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3809@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Dec 18 17:38:35 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AX1AZ-0001hf-00 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:38:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AX18G-0005Tv-00; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:36:12 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AX18C-0005Tq-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:36:08 -0600 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (clifford.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.41]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5054A3A0037 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 10:36:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from collins.bwh.harvard.edu (collins [134.174.9.80]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id hBIGZB713246 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:35:11 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from collins.bwh.harvard.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by collins.bwh.harvard.edu (8.12.9+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id hBIGZBuB009857 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:35:11 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by collins.bwh.harvard.edu (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9/Submit) id hBIGZB3G009854; Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:35:11 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Xavier Maillard's message of "Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:26:43 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55269 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55269 On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, zedek@gnu-rox.org wrote: > Ted Zlatanov disait r=E9cemment que : >> You can give specific checks to spam-split also - see the docs. >=20 > So if I understand correctly, I can in my split chain do something > like (: spam-split 'spam-use-bogofilter) and so on ? Yes, just like it says in the manual :) >> Well, spam autodetection has these benefits: >> - easier to see what's happening >=20 > Hum how so ? It's in spam-find-spam, instead of all over the place in split-fancy methods. Debugging spam-find-spam is pretty easy. >> - obviously, spam autodetection works for read-only backends >=20 > Ah here is the point. Since now, I set spam-autodetect even for my > normal mail groups (nnml backends) and I just didn't see anything > happening except a bunch of CPU used when entering mailing-list > groups. Well I didn't say "only works." It should work for all mail groups, and I've used it that way. What did you expect to happen? Some mail will be marked as spam, but you probably don't have any spam in your mail groups so there was nothing to mark. >> The best solution, as always, may be a compromise: >> >> - spam-split in incoming mail will move mail to a temporary queue >> folder >> >> - right afterwards, spam autodetection will be done on the queue >> folder >> >> - ham will be sent to the next item in the >> nn{mail,imap}-split-fancy chain >=20 > Hmmm. I don't think I have correctly understood this part. Best for > me is to try that way. No worries, this will not come up again for a while, and if it does I'll be sure to discuss it at length with the other Gnus developers and users before I write any code. Ted