From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54655 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam/ham exit processors Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:20:00 -0500 Organization: =?koi8-r?q?=F4=C5=CF=C4=CF=D2=20=FA=CC=C1=D4=C1=CE=CF=D7?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <4nu15kswmn.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> References: <76ekwpy35x.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <4nllqx47mx.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87ptg9ryb2.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <4nptg916wn.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <87llqxqf1l.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067912501 31948 80.91.224.253 (4 Nov 2003 02:21:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 02:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3196@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 04 03:21:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AGqp8-0005vn-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:21:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AGqoZ-0006cN-00; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:21:03 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AGqoR-0006cH-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 03 Nov 2003 20:20:55 -0600 Original-Received: from clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (clifford.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.9.41]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2070B3A005B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 20:20:55 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (lockgroove [134.174.9.133]) by clifford.bwh.harvard.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.11.0) with ESMTP id hA42KP728801; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:20:25 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from tzz@localhost) by lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.0) id hA42K0204466; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 21:20:00 -0500 (EST) Original-To: Kai Grossjohann X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: Kai Grossjohann , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87llqxqf1l.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> (Kai Grossjohann's message of "Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:10:30 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54655 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54655 On Mon, 03 Nov 2003, kai@emptydomain.de wrote: > Ted Zlatanov writes: > >> Sure, you could have spam moved from all groups to "nnml:spam" [1] >> and then process spam only in "nnml:spam". I do that, and >> furthermore I have the spam-process-destination parameter of >> "nnml:spam" set to "nnml:train" so I can run SpamAssassin directly >> on the "nnml:spam" group's file contents. In "nnml:spam" I have >> the ham-process-destination set to "nnml:mail" and thus when I tick >> an article in the spam group it gets popped and ham-processed back >> into "nnml:mail". It's a pretty tidy system. > > Why do you have two groups, nnml:spam and nnml:train? Hm. Ah, > maybe it is in order to avoid training SA on all spam. You look at > nnml:spam first, then you catch all ham from there. Only *real* > spam is moved to nnml:train. So you're not training SA with "fake > spam". Right. Where I said "I can run SpamAssassin directly on the 'nnml:spam' group" I actually meant "nnml:train" and you knew what I meant :) > So it's a system similar to mine; I have nnimap:INBOX.spam instead > of nnml:spam and nnimap:INBOX.makespam instead of nnml:train. And I > only train Bogofilter on the borderline cases, so I don't move all > spam from nnimap:INBOX.spam to nnimap:INBOX.makespam. Well, it takes time to move the articles, but then again I just have to hit `q' and it's automatic so I don't mind doing it once a day. I also empty out my training group after I'm done training. Ted