From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23546 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Christian Nybø" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: some mail annoyances Date: 25 Jun 1999 05:18:05 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <4yn1xp7ytu.fsf@sgichr.fastweb.no> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161259 2613 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:47:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03272 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 01:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAB04758; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:32:07 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:32:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24477 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:31:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mail.naringsnett.no (mail.fastweb.no [194.143.13.98]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA29851 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sgichr.fastweb.no.set-var-smtpmail-local-domain (67.13.reverse.intermedia.no [194.143.13.103] (may be forged)) by mail.naringsnett.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA09358 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 04:34:33 +0200 Posted-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 04:34:33 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-URL: http://www.mediascience.no/~chr/ In-Reply-To: Per Bothner's message of "24 Jun 1999 14:19:19 -0700" Original-Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070084 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.84) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23546 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23546 Per Bothner writes: [...] > Gnus *could* be that recommended mailer for everybody using Emacs. > It is very close - it just needs a little bit of usability > engineering, some tweaking of the defaults, and some better > documentation It certainly has the power and flexibility. However, > the defaults are a bit unnatural, the standard keybindings are > optimized for news rather than mail, and there is no good > introduction to using Gnus. (The latter should *start* by > explaining how to use it for mail, since that is what people need > *first*.) Where do you see VM in that picture? -- chr