From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77244 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Global indicators Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:13:40 -0800 Message-ID: <5013884D8AF6495EB713FDC39F55C126@us.oracle.com> References: <87ei76yi1x.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lj1ergg5.fsf@gmx.de><87ipwi3hjm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwrmr6gf.fsf@gmx.de><8739nm1u6n.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <878vxdxfzw.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwrj6j18.fsf@gmx.de> <87zkpp43s2.fsf@gmx.de><87aaho0yi1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ipwb5fcc.fsf@gnus.org><87fwrf87f3.fsf@gmx.de> <87tyfuh3l3.fsf@stupidchicken.com><87aahmv2vm.fsf_-_@keller.adm.naquadah.org> <87vd0ai9ew.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298506464 7411 80.91.229.12 (24 Feb 2011 00:14:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: , To: "'Chong Yidong'" , "'Michael Albinus'" Original-X-From: ding-owner+M25574@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Feb 24 01:14:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PsOqV-0003IL-AD for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:14:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PsOqQ-0007Kk-SV; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:14:10 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PsOqP-0007KO-54 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:14:09 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsOqO-0004iE-2k for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:14:09 -0600 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsOqM-0003My-S4 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 01:14:07 +0100 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p1O0DtvZ010204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:13:57 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id p1NG6wl4027280; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:13:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt021.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 1032582071298506421; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:13:41 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.46.36) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:13:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87vd0ai9ew.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcvTtqqbkvhSTY/SSLSC/XnBkaDjGQAAB5og X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4D65A2C3.00B9:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77244 gmane.emacs.devel:136419 Archived-At: > > Why not rather a full part of the echo area for all the global > > indicators that should be there rather than in the mode-line? > > I think this is a good idea. How about putting such indicators on the > right-hand side of the echo area, justified to the right? We > could give it a slightly less prominent face to distinguish it > from ordinary echo area messages. > > One I can think of is that it might get confusing if echo > area messages start to overlap the indicator area (especially > multi-line messages). And how this would interact with the > minibuffer is not clear. I think it's not such a great idea, for the reasons I gave before. Just one opinion. > One more thing: we could put a GTK spinner object (GtkSpinner) on the > right edge of the GTK tool bar. I haven't looked into the > details, but the required code changes probably won't be too challenging. That might be OK. Why not find a way to use any animated GIFs (or free equivalent) on the tool bar? Code could then indicate whatever progress or other activity it liked in whatever way it liked, changing the graphic as needed etc. (And a user who wasn't interested could hide the toolbar.) Of course with such additions it wouldn't be just a tool bar anymore. (That would be OK by me...)