From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78384 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: gnus-unplugged and non agent groups Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:31:13 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <56aag99k3g.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1302098402 8744 80.91.229.12 (6 Apr 2011 14:00:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 14:00:02 +0000 (UTC) To: nognus Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26688@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Apr 06 15:59:59 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7TH3-00050P-KF for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:59:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7TGp-0001pw-2d; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:59:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7TGn-0001pj-VK for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:59:41 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7TGm-0007GA-JA for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 08:59:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7TGl-0007gQ-E0 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 15:59:39 +0200 Original-Received: by fxm15 with SMTP id 15so1696639fxm.17 for ; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 06:59:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:date:organization:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=i9e3UrObu6ozHab6huvlIOf/8Nck/b3BvreTNbvZCuk=; b=wcno1Od/XQdtwsMa2lqKqrDWec/OzmkTfCFNRKgGDob++MRMJ3Ix1R4GqIlH66cErp OJRoQyTH+vyGtTzq0OqwK7N05D2qRZvTm0lwirdeHD43+n3M8loD5daKrNxVWijPUOVJ VdPftbybHz9+WgVH4lNW1KgIMslnbuK3QCAXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:organization:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; b=kEvG+8uO4+OyAhcefrTHWW6c7+59viuvptAeFS149HjnTZ+G3N1CQazQNYy0ICL4S0 ogozs4YSSWOTjPBrb+QGDJiuE2Ed0vASiQHRJDqyNyHVA+te52JrWtCizsYA5DPBsJ24 LR8subdW29LVhRfMAvZFMgJ+BBjuZBvJFddd0= Original-Received: by 10.223.27.129 with SMTP id i1mr1134635fac.24.1302098374066; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 06:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from asus1015pem ([85.183.18.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l2sm209912fam.29.2011.04.06.06.59.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Apr 2011 06:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from shamrock by asus1015pem with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7THC-0003yZ-ER for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2011 16:00:06 +0200 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78384 Archived-At: My level 1 groups are all local servers: nnml & nntp localhost (leafnode). Neither are agentised. In my set up only level 1 are activated at gnus start. gnus-activate-level is 1. Is it correct that they are not polled when I start gnus-unplugged? The term unplugged, if I understand correctly, should only apply to servers marked as agentised. These local nntp and nnml are not. >From the manual : ,---- | Gnus is never really in plugged or unplugged state. Rather, it | applies that state to each server individually. This means that some | servers can be plugged while others can be unplugged. Additionally, | some servers can be ignored by the Agent altogether (which means that | they're kinda like plugged always). `---- They are activated in that if they have unread posts already they are visible. BUT, in the case of nnml, it does not suck in any new mail from the spool when I run gnus-unplugged : e.g if all mail is read, I quit gnus, send a local mail to /var/mail/shamrock when I restart, gnus is not reading it in. To work around this I can to start gnus at level 1 plugged which also sucks in new mail/posts from level 1 sources and then toggle it unplugged and this is fine ,---- | ;; (define-key mode-specific-map [?m] 'gnus-unplugged) | (define-key mode-specific-map [?m] (lambda()(interactive) (gnus-agent-toggle-plugged t)(gnus 1)(gnus-agent-toggle-plugged nil))) `---- but again the flexibility makes me wonder if I am using it correctly. Note I need to specifically set it to plugged before calling (gnus 1) because gnus remembers the plugged state between gnus sessions in the same emacs instance. e.g quit unplugged and gnus starts unplugged when calling (gnus). I would still expect unagentised, active servers to suck in new messages when I call gnus-unplugged. Is this incorrect on my part?