From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80424 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: RE: smtp crap Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:58:18 -0700 Message-ID: <5997613E240C402C877A76C688773E65@us.oracle.com> References: <8739f4kzp3.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ipo0p1bc.fsf@stupidchicken.com><58C87CB9F44943A7BBE78F2D6B62A850@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319651930 21098 80.91.229.12 (26 Oct 2011 17:58:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Chong Yidong' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, 'Miles Bader' To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 26 19:58:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ7kM-00028e-K8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:58:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45863 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ7kM-00008n-3y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:58:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60550) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ7kE-00008a-Dx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:58:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ7kD-0002Fy-Bb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:58:30 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:53699) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJ7kB-0002EX-To; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:58:28 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p9QHwPq0025297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:58:26 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9QHwN0Y011594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:58:24 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt115.oracle.com (abhmt115.oracle.com [141.146.116.67]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p9QHwIPV011288; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:58:18 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:58:17 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcyHlOjymimTCqrPRcCY006h0Cg/7AMczoWg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A020209.4EA84A42.00F5,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 141.146.126.227 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145592 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80424 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:38 PM > > Editing the From is indeed a bug that we have to fix before > the release. Still not fixed. And the UI is now worse than before. http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=9877 Users reporting a bug with `emacs -Q' should not have to specify ANYTHING about email methods. This is nothing but a regression - reporting a bug with `emacs -Q' has never been a problem in past releases. Why burden and confuse users now?