From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33574 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ShengHuo ZHU Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Some numbering problem (nnml?) Date: 04 Dec 2000 17:12:58 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <5bofyrn8d1.fsf@brandy.cs.rochester.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169656 25851 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:07:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:07:36 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD78CD049A for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:17:21 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAB25018; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:13:23 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 04 Dec 2000 16:12:47 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00260 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:12:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from gate.cs.rochester.edu (gate.cs.rochester.edu [192.5.53.207]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E910D049A for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:13:00 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from brandy.cs.rochester.edu (brandy.cs.rochester.edu [192.5.53.199]) by gate.cs.rochester.edu (8.8.8+Sun/T--) with ESMTP id RAA04626 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:12:59 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from zsh@localhost) by brandy.cs.rochester.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/Q++) id RAA04024; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:12:58 -0500 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: ZSH X-Face: 'IF:e51ib'Qbl^(}l^&4-J`'P!@[4~O|&k#:@Gld#b/]oMq&`&FVY._3+b`mzp~Jeve~/#/ ERD!OTe<86UhyN=l`mrPY)M7_}`Ktt\K+58Z!hu7>qU,i.N7TotU[FYE(f1;}`g2xj!u*l`^&=Q!g{ *q|ddto|nkt"$r,K$[)"|6,elPH= GJ6Q In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33574 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33574 prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > > How hard can it really be for gnus to count files on disk for mail > > groups? > > That's done by individual backends, not Gnus proper. But anyway, > backends already report the number of articles in the output of > -request-group. Gnus ignores this in favor of last-first+1 (according > to the 5.8.7 texinfo). Anyone know why? Obviously, backends are > capable of making at least as good an estimate as that, and probably > much better. Some backends might not actually do this, but this seems > like a bad way to handle them. One reason is that the number doesn't help much to calculate the number of unread articles. For example, -request-group returns 3 5 9 (the number of articles, first, last), and you've read 5-8. What is the number of unread articles? Gnus doesn't know whether number 9 is missing. ShengHuo