From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78074 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Agent and large counts and general offline usage Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:43:25 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <6gvcz894tu.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <87bp11gdko.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300963393 15803 80.91.229.12 (24 Mar 2011 10:43:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Antoine Levitt Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26385@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Mar 24 11:43:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2i0R-0001zo-0v for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:43:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2i0I-0003us-0f; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:42:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2i0G-0003uc-Eq for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:42:56 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2i0F-0004nX-2t for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 05:42:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2i0D-0003LZ-Uy for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:42:54 +0100 Original-Received: by fxm15 with SMTP id 15so12222133fxm.17 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:42:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date :organization:message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=Hy9CtdMCiaH51dstUzgH/Taw3kSJ0WeOyxihQ7KG6e8=; b=BsDSt7anDEUIoQH7E/a+IFnQQnBEX3jJrVFYdzJDoVbZQc2BtSIrrdyNWcwsHKoLUF 5clLanUBt0zz9ga4Tcqm5Ycd17XDWoALJFoO2x/77JVCoUM3bzDMeV52K3k2WWjbbAHc s9FfYJrW521RvGuQTo/mIzjPPitOntC8MBFiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=eyHTZP0qA96rZxT7YR+qs+z0uFTKCs6FgFlIZQ3y6vFEE0ZVfzrXtg9rTOQXZanN2B YFv4QFpSuHclHzYmrEgwLhaheZGaHn5kvl9ynwj93EvnkU78iMt0qx8c1VQ27l44iepV jGYvSP1wfcOINI1+2ddSW8WxfbVaLG/kx1VGQ= Original-Received: by 10.223.2.8 with SMTP id 8mr6266729fah.82.1300963368192; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from asus1015pem (109.Red-83-40-108.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [83.40.108.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l2sm3246292fam.29.2011.03.24.03.42.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from shamrock by asus1015pem with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q2i0t-0006wF-MV; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:43:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87bp11gdko.fsf@gmail.com> (Antoine Levitt's message of "Thu, 24 Mar 2011 08:52:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110015 (No Gnus v0.15) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78074 Archived-At: Antoine Levitt writes: > 24/03/11 01:25, Richard Riley >> (sorry if this is a re-mail - a combo of agent and blocked smtp server >> port combined with exim4 inscrutability causing havoc here..) >> >> Just using the agent for the first time abroad in an attempt to cut >> online charges that result from the usb mobile network "roaming" cash >> cow. >> >> Plugged, adding a few nntp groups to the agent "default" category and >> then fetching data using Js, I then go unplugged. So far so good. I can >> read the fetched articles. >> >> If I quit Gnus then restart unplugged the article counts are massive e.g >> 2390233 for one group that I had already caught up with. >> >> If I go "plugged" then the count stays at that high number. >> >> Is there a remedy? > > I had the same issue a few weeks ago, it stopped with one of the > updates. I believe it was > > gnus-sum.el (gnus-propagate-marks): Change default back to nil > again, since most backends do not usefully have server-side marks. > Setting this to "nil" solved the problem. thanks. That said I am sure I set it for a reason. Now what I wonder ;)) Interestingly I parse the somewhat programmer orientated docstring the exact other way. ,---- | Documentation: | If non-nil, Gnus will store and retrieve marks from the backends. | This means that marks will be stored both in .newsrc.eld and in | the backend, and will slow operation down somewhat. `---- This sounds to me like the marks are saved properly to .newsrc.eld, if set to t, so offline counts should work. Yet its the other way around. That said I have no idea what "propagating marks to a backend" means in the context of Gnus..