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From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: can Gnus simply use the Emacs bug tracker?
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:23:56 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6iy64gxk4z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8762rk2vah.fsf@lifelogs.com>

Ted Zlatanov wrote:

> After some discussion on the Gnus mailing list we wanted to propose that
> Gnus simply use the Emacs bug tracker.  Rationale:
>
> 1) the current Gnus bug reporting setup doesn't work well and is not
> highly visible

I guess it's not that visible because the address it goes to does not
seem to be a public mailing list, for some reason. (I assumed that was
by choice.)

> 2) the Emacs bug tracker has better functionality
>
> 3) people already report Gnus bugs to Emacs since it's part of Emacs
>
> This would involve changes to `M-x gnus-bug' and the Gnus manual.
>
> This will get fun when XEmacs users report bugs against Emacs+Gnus for
> XEmacs compatibility.  So maybe for them we can set up a special bug
> category, passed to the bug tracker in the subject or in the headers.

XEmacs also has a bug tracker IIUC, so you could make reports from
XEmacs go there instead. ;)

That's not a complete solution though, because Gnus also supports older
Emacs releases, and we don't want those reports to go to the
bug-gnu-emacs list...


Anyway, to some extent you can do this already.
For some time, "gnus" has existed as debbugs.gnu.org package, with a
maintainer address of bugs@gnus.org. This is why you will see numbered
bug mail from debbugs.gnu.org appearing at that address: either someone
reported a bug against the gnus package, or, more commonly, I reassigned
it from "emacs" to "emacs,gnus", so that subsequent mails go to both
addresses.


So really all that is needed is to use "Package: gnus" in the first line
of a mail to submit@debbugs. Using "Package: emacs,gnus" causes both
bugs@gnus.org and bug-gnu-emacs to get mails. You can do this today with
zero other changes required.


With regards to making it more "official", personally I hesitate a bit.
debbugs.gnu.org is a GNU machine and the set-up is intended for GNU
projects. Do you regard Gnus as a GNU project? GNU Gnus? I know Gnus is
part of Emacs, but eg

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnus

does not exist, and I don't seem to find a statement on
http://www.gnus.org/. There don't seem to be any mentions in the Gnus
manual either. Stand-alone Gnus is not distributed on ftp.gnu.org. Etc,
etc.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-15 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-15 16:38 Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-15 17:40 ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-15 18:27   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-15 19:32   ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-15 19:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 19:23 ` Glenn Morris [this message]
2011-03-15 19:41   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-15 19:47   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-15 23:27     ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 14:00       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 15:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 15:58           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-16 17:51             ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 17:55               ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-16 19:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 17:32         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-16 18:44           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 16:52             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 17:27               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 17:40                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 19:12                   ` Ted Zlatanov
     [not found]                   ` <3tmxkty6up.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2011-03-18  8:33                     ` Reiner Steib
2011-03-18 13:04                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 18:53                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 19:09                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-28 15:31                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-28 15:33                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-15 20:31   ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-15 20:45     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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