From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62062 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.mail.mh-e.devel Subject: Re: Sharing mail icons between MH-E and Gnus Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:09:21 -0800 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <7109.1140584961@olgas.newt.com> References: <28928.1129483226@olgas.newt.com> <30678.1129563148@olgas.newt.com> <16231.1140316818@olgas.newt.com> <87lkw5pvvj.fsf@koldfront.dk> <32079.1140559890@olgas.newt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1140585006 26474 80.91.229.2 (22 Feb 2006 05:10:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 05:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m10590@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Feb 22 06:10:03 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBmGH-0003Ae-Bq for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:10:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FBmGC-0002e1-00; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:09:56 -0600 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1FBmFz-0002dl-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:09:43 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBmFv-0001Bm-Uk for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:09:43 -0600 Original-Received: from pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.72]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1FBmFu-0006hH-00 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:09:38 +0100 Original-Received: from h-64-105-34-200.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([64.105.34.200] helo=olgas.newt.com) by pop-sarus.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FBmFs-0001zp-00; Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:09:37 -0500 Original-Received: by olgas.newt.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7EC2417010; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:09:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from olgas.newt.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olgas.newt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BDA16FA9; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:09:21 -0800 (PST) Original-To: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Reiner Steib's message of Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:30:10 +0100. X-Mailer: MH-E 7.92+cvs; nmh 1.1; GNU Emacs 22.0.50.7 X-Image-URL: http://www.newt.com/wohler/images/bill-diving.png Mail-Followup-To: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, ding@gnus.org X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:62062 gmane.mail.mh-e.devel:11728 Archived-At: --=-=-= Reiner Steib wrote: > Some hours ago, I have committed the icons to Gnus trunk. Thanks! You might consider floating the list, maybe my annotated version for context, to emacs-devel. There's at least a couple of folks there who might have some comments ;-). It's a history with this which is why I wrote the following: > On Tue, Feb 21 2006, Bill Wohler wrote: > > > Reiner Steib wrote: > > > >> Those names make sense for Gnome, but not necessarily for Gnus. > > > > Whenever we're creating names outside of the etc/images/gnus namespace, > > we should be creating names that make sense for all of Emacs. > I'd suggest to add all 5 Gnome sort icons (in etc/images/). In case > we need other icons for Gnus, we can add them (later) in > gnus/sort-whatever. WDYT? I'm cool with that. Folks (like MH-E) would use the icons directly. It sounds like you (Gnus) folks would rename and retarget the icons for slightly different uses. You'll, of course, have a etc/images/gnus/README which describes that ;-). > > If possible, it sounds like what would work well for Gnus is to use the > > sort-ascending icon that doubles as a pull-down menu. A click would run > > the default sort, while a drag would display a menu from which the user > > can select one the various sort types. > > I'm not sure about "drag", but a menu on mouse-3 click would be fine > (like a context menu). That would be kind of obscure, I think. I was thinking of those icons in OutBreak (LookOut) for "Get Mail" that had little triangles. If you click you get the default behavior (get all mail); if you press Mouse-1 and *hold* (or drag, as I said before), you get a menu to choose the one mail source. 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icon next to the New button, you get a menu of things to create. That should be doable in both Emacs 21 and 22 I think. I think that would be a fine solution until Emacs supports menuable icons. Oddly enough, i couldn't find the v icon in $g. Can you? p.s. I found $g/stock_draw-line-with-arrows.png that we could use in place of our own widen.xpm if the other MH-E developers don't think we should go with the un-zoom icon. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. --=-=-=--