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From: Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: spam/ham exit processors
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 12:37:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <761xsorq5v.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4nvfq0ds72.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 04 Nov 2003 11:17:05 -0500")

>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

   TZ> On Tue, 04 Nov 2003, colman@ppllc.com wrote:
   >>>>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
   >> 
   TZ> I think you want an intermediate "spam" group with its
   TZ> process-destination set to "train", and then run
   TZ> spam-processors on "train" only.  So all spam will flow to
   TZ> "spam" and then you can pop ham back out of "spam" before it
   TZ> all gets moved into "train."
   >> 
   TZ> I like the "train" approach also because Bogofilter can be
   TZ> easily run on all those messages from the command line.
   >> 
   >> But if the messages were already filtered into the "intermediate"
   >> spam group it would seem to indicate that spam.el (through whatever
   >> statistical tool is being used) already determine it to be spam.  So
   >> why do you need to ever move messages from one spam group into
   >> another?

   TZ> Because I like to verify (visually) that messages are spam before
   TZ> training my filters on them.  This has given me the result of 2 spam
   TZ> messages in the last week that got through, out of a few thousand
   TZ> spams.  Some people don't want the inconvenience of spending time
   TZ> looking at spams, so they train on whatever is in the spam folder.
   TZ> That's fine too.

I MUST be missing something here.   Don't the filters _already know_ that
the messages were spam?  How else did they end up in the intermediate folder?
 Why do you need to train if it's been trained?

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-04 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-03 13:47 Jake Colman
2003-11-03 18:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-11-03 20:29   ` Kai Grossjohann
2003-11-03 20:31     ` Russ Allbery
2003-11-03 21:26       ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-11-03 21:43         ` Russ Allbery
2003-11-04  2:28           ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-11-04  3:03             ` Russ Allbery
2003-11-04 15:11             ` Jake Colman
2003-11-04 16:17               ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-11-04 17:37                 ` Jake Colman [this message]
2003-11-04 22:31                   ` Kai Grossjohann
2003-11-03 21:25     ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-11-03 22:10       ` Kai Grossjohann
2003-11-04  2:20         ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-11-04 15:08       ` Jake Colman

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