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From: Jake Colman <colman@ppllc.com>
To: gmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.no
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Slow Access from Gnus
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:21:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <764pahfsdj.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <v9myo97ime.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de>

>>>>> "RS" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:

   RS> On Fri, Apr 04 2008, Jake Colman wrote:
   >>>>>>> "SB" == Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
   SB> Have you tried sniffing the group opening with eg. wireshark to
   SB> see if the delay is simply network related?
   >> 
   >> When I enter a traditional nntp-based newsgroup (e.g., comp.emacs.help)
   >> I see some quick 'nntp read' messages and then I'm in.  Depending on the
   >> number of messages that have been posted since the last time I entered
   >> the newsgroup, I will see more or less 'nntp read' messages.
   >> 
   >> But when I entered gmane.discuss just now, with only two messages posted
   >> since I last checked it yesterday, I still saw a huge amount of 'nntp
   >> read' traffic.  It's almost as if Gnus is downloading the entire group
   >> and doesn't know how much I've already seen.

   RS> Set nntp-record-commands to t and check if the commands in the
   RS> *nntp-log* buffer are significantly different e.g. for
   RS> gnu.emacs.help and gmane.emacs.help.

Very, very odd.  The commands are identical.

For example:

20080404T131502.278 news.gmane.org GROUP gmane.emacs.gnus.general
20080404T131502.400 news.gmane.org XOVER 1-66679
20080404T131611.177 free.teranews.com GROUP comp.emacs
20080404T131611.296 free.teranews.com XOVER 1-69787

Yes, it appears that for every gmane group it actually rereads the
entire "active file" (do I know what I'm talkig about?) or something.
Even if I do a catch-up in my gmane group it rereads everything.  If I
enter comp.emacs twice in a row, the second is almost instantaneous.
Entering the same gmane group twice will take the same amount of time
each time as it does all those kilobytes of nntp reads.

-- 
Jake Colman
Director of Software Development
Principia Partners LLC
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-04 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <76abkahc6i.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com>
     [not found] ` <87r6dmobkp.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>
     [not found]   ` <76sky2fksc.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com>
     [not found]     ` <877ifdhip3.fsf@dod.no>
     [not found]       ` <76d4p5g22s.fsf@dev-d01.ppllc.com>
2008-04-04 15:19         ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-04 17:21           ` Jake Colman [this message]
2008-04-04 17:56             ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-04 19:18               ` Jake Colman
2008-04-04 19:54                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-04 20:07                   ` Sven Joachim
2008-05-24 13:09                     ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-06 18:03                   ` Jake Colman
2008-04-06 20:23                     ` Reiner Steib

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