Sun spots.... That must be why I was having problems. The examples I posted most certainly did NOT work. I cut and pasted an example from the gnus texi docs, modified it accordingly, and now its working just fine. Go figure. This cost me a week of aggravation.... >>>>> "KG" == Kai Großjohann writes: KG> What you are showing should work. I have this server, and it works KG> nicely: KG> /---- | ;;; Editing the server. | ;; Type `C-c C-c' after you've KG> finished editing. | | (nntp "quimby" | (nntp-address "bonny") | KG> (nntp-rlogin-program "ssh") | (nntp-open-connection-function KG> nntp-open-rlogin) | (nntp-end-of-line "\n") | (nntp-rlogin-parameters KG> | ("telnet" "quimby.gnus.org" "nntp"))) | \---- KG> Looks a lot like your first variant, no? KG> You might wish to try to manually establish a connection to your news KG> server: KG> rsh -l USER delaware telnet news.globix.net nntp KG> Do you get a connection when you do this? KG> kai -- I like BOTH kinds of music. -- Jake Colman Principia Partners LLC Phone: (201) 946-0300 Harborside Financial Center Fax: (201) 946-0320 902 Plaza II Beeper: (800) 928-4640 Jersey City, NJ 07311 E-mail: colman@ppllc.com E-mail: jcolman@jnc.com web: http://www.ppllc.com microsoft: "where do you want to go today?" linux: "where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "are you guys coming, or what?"