From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39462 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jake Colman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: How To Switch To Another IMAP Server? Date: 19 Oct 2001 11:31:21 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <76bsj3r6ie.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175163 27989 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:39:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 7333 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2001 15:32:28 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 15:32:28 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15ubd7-0005fM-00; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:32:13 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13854 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:31:38 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 7313 invoked by alias); 19 Oct 2001 15:31:55 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 7308 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2001 15:31:54 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO newjersey.ppllc.com) (209.208.206.221) by gnus.org with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 15:31:54 -0000 Original-Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06137; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:31:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to colman@ppllc.com using -f Original-To: Simon Josefsson X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:16:58 +0200 (CEST)") Original-Lines: 90 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39462 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39462 Simon, My SA used Microsoft's ExMerge wizard for moving the mailboxes from truman to hamilton. The wizard provides no explicit options for copying or not copying the marks so I supposed it should have just worked. The problem is that, although all my messages were copied, gnus is not showing me which ones were ticked. Any idea what I should do now? How can I get them ticked? I still have access to the old truman mailbox with the message and tick intact. Thanks! ...Jake >>>>> "SJ" == Simon Josefsson writes: SJ> On 19 Oct 2001, Jake Colman wrote: >> Simon, >> >> Are the gnus tick marks actually stored on the IMAP server? I thought >> they were an artificial invention of gnus. I cannot imagine how they >> night have copied things over such that all the email arrived but not >> the associated marks. SJ> Everything is stored on the IMAP server, and copying the articles SJ> without the marks isn't good. If you have access to both servers SJ> still, maybe you can copy everything again with marks. >> >> ...Jake >> >> >> >>>>> "SJ" == Simon Josefsson writes: >> SJ> On 18 Oct 2001, Jake Colman wrote: >> >> My office has decided to replace our current IMAP Server, truman, >> >> with a new IMAP Server, hamilton. For the next few days, both >> >> servers will be available to me but next week truman will be taken >> >> off-line. The SA's have copied all my mailboxes and folders from >> >> truman to hamilton and all new email will be sent to hamilton. >> >> >> >> So how do I tell gnus that I now want it to access hamilton instead >> >> of truman? What I have done in the meantime is to subscribe to new >> >> nnimap mailboxes on hamilton giving them the same name as they had >> >> on truman. This, of course, gave me two entries for each mailbox, >> >> one on each server. I have killed (C-k) many of the truman copies >> >> of these mailboxes. >> >> >> >> Questions: >> >> >> >> 1) Was there a better way to have done this? >> SJ> Can't think of one. >> >> >> 2) Some of the truman mailboxes have ticked articles marked with an >> >> exclamation point. How do I get the hamilton copies of the >> >> messages ticked the same way. >> SJ> How was the messages copied between the servers? The flags should be SJ> copied as well. >> >> >> 3) I still have references to the killed truman mailboxes in my >> >> .newsrc.eld. >> >> Is this a problem? >> SJ> Shouldn't be, but you can probably remove them by running some SJ> command to kill "zombies" or "killed" groups, or something like that. >> >> >> 4) I currently have entries for both truman and hamilton in my >> >> gnus-secondary-select-methods. When I start gnus, it logs on to >> >> both servers, prompting me for passwords for both. Great! If I >> >> remove truman, I crap out with a lisp error. Before I delve into >> >> this and give you a better report, is there something obvious I >> >> missed that would cause a problem, perhaps one of the items >> >> mentioned above? >> SJ> No, it is a bug. Can you post the entire backtrace? >> >> -- Jake Colman Principia Partners LLC Phone: (201) 946-0300 Harborside Financial Center Fax: (201) 946-0320 902 Plaza Two E-mail: colman@ppllc.com Jersey City, NJ 07311 www.principiapartners.com