From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54583 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jake Colman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: ham training and gnus-expirable-mark Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:36:48 -0500 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <76fzha1enj.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067557051 27537 80.91.224.253 (30 Oct 2003 23:37:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 23:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3124@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Oct 31 00:37:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AFMM5-0003U7-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:37:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AFMLy-0003nk-00; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:37:22 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AFMLt-0003nf-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:37:17 -0600 Original-Received: from newjersey.ppllc.com (unknown [65.206.49.195]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600533A0056 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 17:37:17 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from colman@localhost) by newjersey.ppllc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09599; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:36:49 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: newjersey.ppllc.com: colman set sender to colman@ppllc.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Jake X-URL: http://www.ppllc.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Reasonable Discussion, usg-unix-v) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54583 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54583 I've figured out why my ham was not being trained. Many of mailing lists are sety up as auto-expire. Messages with the gnus-expirable-mark are not passed on to the ham processor. If I give the messages the gnus-del-mark the message gets trained. Some related questions: 1) Should this be considered a problem? Why not allow me to use the contents of an auto-expiry group for ham training? 2) In a spam group, how do I mark ham so that it can be sent for training? I have specified both spam and ham processors, I removed the gnus-spam-mark and replace it with a gnus-del-mark but that does not seem to do the trick. Did I miss something or (as I think the manual implies) is this not possible? If not, I guess the only thing to do is to specify a ham group for the non-spam contents so that it can get moved over and then trained? -- Jake Colman Principia Partners LLC Phone: (201) 209-2467 Harborside Financial Center Fax: (201) 946-0320 902 Plaza Two E-mail: colman@ppllc.com Jersey City, NJ 07311 www.principiapartners.com