From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/69841 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Manuel Carro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Accessing all incoming mails, checking for network connection, changes in message status Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:47:05 +0200 Message-ID: <7smxtdrt12.fsf@fi.upm.es> References: <7saapinvff.fsf@fi.upm.es> <87eieqx7xm.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280234893 1529 80.91.229.12 (27 Jul 2010 12:48:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M18231@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jul 27 14:48:11 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdjZr-0008NI-0T for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:48:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OdjYu-0005LL-68; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:47:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OdjYs-0005L2-3A for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:47:10 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OdjYp-0005ny-O5 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:47:09 -0500 Original-Received: from relay.fi.upm.es ([138.100.8.77] helo=relay4.fi.upm.es) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OdjYo-0006hD-00 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:47:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by relay4.fi.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C08D304B8; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:47:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at efiltro.fi.upm.es Original-Received: from mail2.fi.upm.es (mail2.fi.upm.es [138.100.243.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay4.fi.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3476230466; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:47:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mcl-laptop (unknown [138.100.13.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.fi.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141112D05AA; Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:47:06 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87eieqx7xm.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:13:57 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:69841 Archived-At: Dear Ted, First of all thanks for your answers and the time spent. > Virtual groups should do this. Otherwise you're reinventing the same > functionality. So if the only problem is that the GCC field is wrong, > let's fix that. Or is there another reason why virtual groups are not > what you want? I have a virtual group which puts together all mail, so that when I enter the group I see all unread and ticked articles. But these articles have already been spooled to the corresponding groups. What I would like is to receive all mail in a single group (that is easy) and, as I read the messages, respool them to other groups using a set of rules and "B t" (basically the ones I have now). It is the second part I d= id not manage to find how to do, as it seems that at the moment I set up splitting rules the mail start to be split. > I don't think that's available like that right now. But the Gnus Agent > is supposed to help with connected/disconnected transitions; have you > looked at it? I haven't. Thanks for the suggestion. > I would perfonally set up a local SMTP server that will queue my mails > until the network connection is up again. But that's probably too > much for most users. I used to do that (with Postfix), but at some point I found myself using at least three different setups (a laptop, a desktop machine, and a vitual machine running on Mac OS X) so I decided no to set up three different SMTP servers and use a configuration which basically runs in user-space and which works unchanged. I of course synchronize my personal stuff (using unison). > This indicates article marks are inconsistent. Is this over IMAP or > another protocol? Could the server be modifying article numbers behind > Gnus' back? It is over IMAP, but use IMAP to copy the mail messages over to my machine and I the processing is done locally after my mail has been downloaded. I do not think the article numbers are being modified, then. 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