From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80705 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Manuel Carro Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Show mark in unread emails Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:35:50 +0100 Message-ID: <7sobv2j5t5.fsf@fi.upm.es> References: <87liqck7op.fsf@cica.brc> <7sty4x7a1g.fsf@fi.upm.es> <87ty4xzaai.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <7svcpd8i9w.fsf@fi.upm.es> <87mxaozlqu.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <7sty4vslzn.fsf@fi.upm.es> <87wr9rzduj.fsf@nzebook.haselwarter.org> <7s4nwvm6to.fsf@fi.upm.es> <87aa6nvzqx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <7s8vm7hx47.fsf@fi.upm.es> <87wr9ruhkc.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <7sfwgfdmaf.fsf@fi.upm.es> <87hb0vrnjp.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1324481798 2610 80.91.229.12 (21 Dec 2011 15:36:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:36:38 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28987@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Dec 21 16:36:35 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RdODa-0000qi-JI for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:36:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RdOD1-0002kg-5W; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:35:59 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RdOCy-0002kO-D0 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:35:56 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RdOCw-0005Eu-G3 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:35:55 -0600 Original-Received: from relay.fi.upm.es ([138.100.8.76] helo=relay3.fi.upm.es) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RdOCt-0005ZP-Rz for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:35:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by relay3.fi.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3C4ACDAA4 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:35:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at efiltro.fi.upm.es Original-Received: from mail2.fi.upm.es (mail2.fi.upm.es [138.100.243.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay3.fi.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F161ACD970 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:35:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mcl-laptop (imdea-software.fi.upm.es [138.100.13.220]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.fi.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169172D04B2 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:35:51 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87hb0vrnjp.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> ("Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B8gren=22's?= message of "Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:33:14 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -7.5 (-------) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80705 Archived-At: > > I tried it. > > I didn't see you reporting that it didn't work, before? You are right, I didn't. I was not sure group parameters were the way to go (I had never used them before) and so I thought I could try something different, started playing with the different marking options, and eventually send the initial message. > > So, yes, I tried to follow that path, but unsuccessfuly so far. > > If you had said from the beginning that that was what you wanted to > achieve, but couldn't make work, it would have saved us all a lot of > time :-) Well, I tried to explain what I was after, but as I said I didn't see solving the group parameters issue as the key. Now I see (thanks everyone) that it can be a way to achieve what I am after. So I apologize for the waste of everyone's time, perhaps especially to Philipp Haselwarter who had pointed me to the right info page but which I overlooked. > Nope, when I use exactly what he wrote - i.e. I use G p on a group: > [...] Yes, writing it like that does not make Gnus complain after C-cC-c. However I am afraid I am finding a difficulty: I do mark some messages as expirable (so that the messages are marked with `E'), and I cannot find a group parameter expression which shows unseen messages, read messages, and ancient messages but not messages marked as expirable. It seems to me that the 'expire' operator of the group parameters selects messages which are not expirable because they are younger than the time-to-expire parameter for the group. Do anyone of you have any idea of how I can make marked-to-expire messages not to show up in the summary? Cheers and thanks again!