From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50821 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexander Kotelnikov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: total and auto expiry Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:34:16 -0500 Organization: Global disintoxication Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <7ysmtrf74n.fsf@myxomop.com> References: <87k7f3pbgf.fsf@forexware.com> <84isunrxf7.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047580664 1569 80.91.224.249 (13 Mar 2003 18:37:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Thu Mar 13 19:37:42 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18tXa8-0000O4-00 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:37:32 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18tXZ4-0006hE-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:36:26 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:37:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA27373 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:37:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 8622 invoked by alias); 13 Mar 2003 18:36:09 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 8617 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2003 18:36:09 -0000 Original-Received: from 65-84-56-200.client.dsl.net (HELO myxomop.com) (65.84.56.200) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 13 Mar 2003 18:36:09 -0000 Original-Received: from sacha by myxomop.com with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18tXWy-0000eG-00; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:34:16 -0500 Original-To: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) X-Face: (uU)eOi[yT~l(bwno'Pl_Z-MbLa:<"SX"r]IQb3zJ8G[n(PGcwS^;\?oSN~iz{IrR3`=_A- ]ghp.+wSOFa}KX@4m{Nl!yP)&v;o8~ (kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de's message of "Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:25:32 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090015 (Oort Gnus v0.15) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50821 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50821 >>>>> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 18:25:32 +0100 >>>>> "KG" =3D=3D Kai Gro=DFjohann wrote: KG>=20 KG> Alexander Kotelnikov writes: >> Does this mean that the only difference between actions that are taken >> over groups matching 'total' and 'auto' it that the former will be >> expired even if expiry-wait for it is 'never? KG>=20 KG> No. I think setting expiry-wait to never means that nothing is KG> expired. KG>=20 KG> Normally, you can mark a message as expirable by hitting `E'. KG>=20 KG> Auto-expire means that Gnus hits `E' for you. Nothing more, nothing KG> less. KG>=20 KG> Total-expire means that messages marked E are expirable, as always, KG> but *also* messages marked r, R, Y, K and so on are considered KG> expirable. Thus the one difference is an article's mark. Its destiny, to be or not to be expired, is the same, if group is matched with total or auto variable. This also means that "total" described as dangerous is not too much more dangerous than "auto", isn't it? KG> Adaptive scoring does not work with auto-expire because it depends on KG> the different marks r, R, Y, K etc. But using auto-expire means that KG> messages will be marked E, instead. KG>=20 KG> It used to be that total-expire was slower than auto-expire. I don't KG> know whether this is still true. So it can be advised to use total with adaptive scoring and auto otherwise. At first approximation they are the same. --=20 Alexander Kotelnikov Saint-Petersburg, Russia