From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64148 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dimitre Liotev Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Expiring spam groups Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:40:24 -0500 Message-ID: <818xgt8f7r.fsf@oh177.znain.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167237698 17262 80.91.229.10 (27 Dec 2006 16:41:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M12671@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Dec 27 17:41:35 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GzbqQ-0000Is-BT for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:41:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gzbq7-0004lg-AI; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:41:15 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gzbq5-0004lI-HD for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:41:13 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Gzbpz-00073y-8M for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:41:13 -0600 Original-Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.36.82]) by quimby.gnus.org with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Gzbpy-0004Ss-00 for ; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:41:06 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 46691 invoked from network); 27 Dec 2006 16:40:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b5FSxzlgh1HD08kqZAdn67+AaY1QmEhoyyWeof1sPcjdg1TcT9eRYhiKcn6qdzJxW7QnnZj24KYGXxAVuHTQdT42FVWD7KC/jZy8qZfcuZK9bP+JgjlbIchWupvBXH1ogzOQUZ9y6GLoTkO7LccgjNjzLhFBMdqoKffn0uGwqGs= ; Original-Received: from unknown (HELO oh177.znain.com.rogers.com) (liotev@rogers.com@74.100.112.134 with login) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Dec 2006 16:40:30 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Oj047uwVM1mP.J_fOmU.emyCXSNTKDbkigXJjnSQK2QdTMpKo6FlP6uY6.hEKCMhjaJ7Gm2QKlNHOx6e.PFSgocEl94J1V2649wdTNezAktjIcPNhS_90Euun6CqSgWIwngWIURA9GFkPPqId1jN5BG542MSxg3g8Rs8y9IGTGHt7hpZ629ZvjDz49d2 Original-To: Ted Zlatanov In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:46:41 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64148 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On 23 Dec 2006, mlist@rogers.com wrote: > >> I still do not understand why the expiry mark "E" disappears from the >> articles in my spam group. >> >> I set up my spam group so: >> >> (add-to-list 'spam-junk-mailgroups "nnimap+localhost:spam") >> >> When I get mail, procmail splits it and puts the spam in a "spam" mbox >> file which is one of my IMAP folders. (I use the crm114 spam filter and >> the dovecot IMAP server) >> >> Now when I go into the spam group in Gnus (that is the "spam" IMAP >> folder), all new spam is marked as spam ("$"). When I exit the group and >> then open it again after a short time, I see that the same articles >> which were marked as spam are now marked as expired ("E"). But when some >> more time passes, and I open the spam group a few more times, I see that >> the "E" mark has disappeared from the older spam articles - so my spam >> group keeps growing. >> >> The Gnus documentation says that expired articles are deleted after some >> time - but in my spam group expired articles become "unexpired" again, >> and so far I haven't found out why this happens. > > What do you want to happen to the spam-marked articles? > > 1) delete > 2) mark as expired > 3) process with a spam processor > 4) move to another group > 5) a combination of 1 through 4 > > If you explain what you expect, it's easier to help you. > > Your expired articles are not being deleted. You need to look at the > group expiry parameters and set them the way you want. Right now, it > seems that only (2) in the list above is happening. > > Ted Hi Ted, I want the expired articles to disappear in one week. I thought that this is the default behavior and that I do not have to add the "auto-expire" or "total-expire" parameters to the group. Here is the relevant Info documentation: (info "(Gnus)Expiring Mail") ==== " To make Gnus get rid of your unwanted mail, you have to mark the articles as "expireable". (With the default key bindings, this means that you have to type `E'.) This does not mean that the articles will disappear right away, however. In general, a mail article will be deleted from your system if, 1) it is marked as expireable, AND 2) it is more than one week old." ==== So according to this documentation if an article is marked as expireable it should be deleted in one week or so, even if you do not set any group parameters. Otherwise I have set the auto-expire parameter on some of my other mail groups and it works - but I expected that expired articles should be deleted without this. Anyway thanks for the help - I will simply set the "auto-expire" parameter on my "spam" group and it should work. regards, -- Dimitre Liotev