From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77692 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sivaram Neelakantan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus bugfixing is broken. Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 23:17:39 +0530 Message-ID: <824o757fwk.fsf@gmail.com> References: <871v2ako4c.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87hbb5ivdo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871v29d6kh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300124949 17483 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2011 17:49:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:49:09 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26016@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Mar 14 18:49:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzBt8-0007n7-8j for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:49:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzBsA-0005MA-Jh; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PzBs8-0005Lp-IB for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:48:00 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzBs7-0003EN-6R for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:48:00 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PzBs4-00037q-Ua for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:47:56 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PzBs4-0007CJ-Ks for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:47:56 +0100 Original-Received: from 122.179.95.177 ([122.179.95.177]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:47:56 +0100 Original-Received: from nsivaram.net by 122.179.95.177 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:47:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 122.179.95.177 User-Mail-Address: nsivaram.net@gmail.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5IV5hO89Tp/ovW4Xeh0k5AI8eHM= X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1765--4560h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1688--4361h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-996--2572h-0s--0d--HX-Complaints-To:sk:usenet@, 0.000-995--2571h-0s--0d--H*r:sk:1AlnuQ-, 0.000-995--2571h-0s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:80.91.229.12 Spam tokens: 0.965-12565--3179h-183803s--0d--HContent-Transfer-Encoding:8bit Autolearn status: no 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is freemail (nsivaram.net[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 1.2 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.9 NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED ADSP custom_med hit, and not from a mailing list 0.0 T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77692 Archived-At: On Mon, Mar 14 2011,Adam Sjøgren wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:17:55 +0100, David wrote: > >> So the only visible reaction I get after about a week is a chastisement >> for thinking something in the bug reporting process appears to be >> broken. > >> To be honest, I am not exactly convinced otherwise yet. > > Try looking at it from the other side: You have reported a bug which has > not been fixed within a week, and from that you go directly to declaring > that bugfixing in Gnus in general is broken. > > Aren't you taking overgeneralization to a new extreme here? [snipped 5 lines] maybe he left out 'bug reporting process *using the suggested email address* ' is broken. :-) Anyways Lars had a looksee, so something is bound to happen. sivaram --