From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/86150 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: George McNinch Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: message and electric-quote-mode Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2015 21:18:03 -0400 Message-ID: <82io7s47xw.fsf_-_@jobim-via-gmail.com> References: <86oahtg01o.fsf@mac.com> <87twrlux2g.fsf@hillenius.net> Reply-To: George McNinch NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441247007 20227 80.91.229.3 (3 Sep 2015 02:23:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 02:23:27 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M34384@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Sep 03 04:23:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXKBF-00077h-Rv for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 04:23:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXK9z-0005zC-4q; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 21:21:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXJAS-0005go-B8 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 20:18:20 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXJAR-0001hd-Kk for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 20:18:20 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXJAP-0004Ab-Ld for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 03:18:17 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXJAN-00016e-Px for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 03:18:16 +0200 Original-Received: from 130.64.2.174 ([130.64.2.174]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 03:18:15 +0200 Original-Received: from gmcninch by 130.64.2.174 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 03:18:15 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 56 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.64.2.174 User-Mail-Address: gmcninch@gmail.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:D0SrusmxkddsAED4gOIEzyRGhEs= X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:86150 Archived-At: I think I'm first going to post this to the gnus-list, though perhaps it belongs instead on emacs-devel? If I compose a message using message-mode, and do M-x electric-quote-mode (so that electric-quote-mode is *enabled*) then typing e.g. `` in the "text of the message" does nothing. This is not the behavior I expected after reading the doc-string of electric-quote-mode (because presumably the text of a message should be a "text paragraph"). However, typing > and then ` two times results in a curved double quote, as follows: > “ The seems to be because message-mode sets the value of the variable comment-start to "> ". (See the function electric-quote-post-self-insert-function ) Indeed, if I do M-: (setq comment-start nil) then typing `` results in the behavior expected when electric-quote-mode is enabled (whether or not there is a preceding "> "). Presumably this is "not (quite) the desired behavior", though I'm not sure precisely what should change. I guess I should say: emacs-version ==> 25.0.50.15 message mode bundled with gnus-version 5.13 All the best, george -- =---= George McNinch =---= http://gmcninch.math.tufts.edu