From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/71205 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [gnus git] Add ~/.authinfo to the default, since that's probably most useful for users. Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:27:31 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: <83ocbsij70.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> References: <87iq238tgr.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwx56tau.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284992897 18718 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2010 14:28:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: ding-owner+M19578@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Sep 20 16:28:15 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxhLp-00064Y-79 for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:28:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OxhLn-0001Io-5d; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:28:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OxhLl-0001Ib-Or for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:28:09 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OxhLh-0006Qr-DH for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:28:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OxhLg-0003r8-00 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 16:28:04 +0200 Original-Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10so20530fxm.17 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:27:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :organization:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=AE5O7b5idbnTvcxxlatg7CEiayAjKdTk0XqwlII8FhE=; b=uH17rEKkas+TxCcgzDd6SOhehrB0CYjMsipdvCdHOdte2CyI5LxdRqu27BdlHlsFG6 +gS/Z3mTYuBsE1Xbu8mNRnxtdmbsQc0GuZy5hHuPQG+Rj7IM19mpDxA0AT+Q1jbTe2sN K/dayhzhhmcmZBVhKSdDbi8xRbdDH1KAbTvZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=SbKvlyjvv4PiJxGITGRS9eOATlGLdyMiM4c/NAZbcY7UdxpNuXCTKOJnZj8caASUvK 7UM9eVZGTsSCnwr6xjfeWV1rHPvpqmmaAGCt92e2wSOKZ4/Nur+WFDxtugHss/nEQYTR D3gqKcnREuUl+saL0rO46e7jA4oxBvgNxFM/A= Original-Received: by 10.223.105.84 with SMTP id s20mr4639324fao.10.1284992854177; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([85.183.18.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r8sm2951160faq.34.2010.09.20.07.27.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 20 Sep 2010 07:27:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fwx56tau.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:30:01 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:71205 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:47:39 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > LMI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>> I was trying to discourage people from putting their password in an >>> unencrypted file. So I'm sort of OK with making the unencrypted file >>> the second choice, but I'd like to at least warn the user. WDYT? > > LMI> If it could be done unobtrusively... I don't really like software that > LMI> tells me that what I'm doing is stupid, even though it's right. :-) > > An unobtrusive warning? That's pretty useless, better not to bother the > user. > > On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:50:38 +0200 Sebastian Krause wrote: > > SK> Personally, I don't like to enter my long GnuPG password every time > SK> I start up Gnus. > > It's entered once per Emacs session. If that's too much use the Secrets > API (KWallet or Gnome Seahorse). I use gpg-agent and keychain. The whole seahorse thing is a tad confusing, certainly in Debian. But when I first start emacs and launch gnus I get promppted via gpg-agent pin entry for my password to unencrypt my .authinfo.gpg and thats that until the specified gpgagent timeout is reached. As a side note : my setting for auth-sources works in 23.2 with the shipped gnus but doesnt seem to properly authenticate my local dovecot nnimap accounts with nognus.