From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55948 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Steven E. Harris" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: loading gnus creates *Group* buffer Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:33:55 -0800 Organization: SEH Labs Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: <83r7y6lzlo.fsf@torus.sehlabs.com> References: <8765fib1u3.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <8365fioz2m.fsf@torus.sehlabs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1073871284 2494 80.91.224.253 (12 Jan 2004 01:34:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M4488@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jan 12 02:34:40 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AfqyW-0004OZ-00 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 02:34:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Afqxp-0002xH-00; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:33:57 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Afqxk-0002xC-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:33:52 -0600 Original-Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.72]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353033A0027 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:33:51 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailspool3.panix.com (mailspool3.panix.com [166.84.1.78]) by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B1A488FF for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:33:49 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from torus.sehlabs.com (rrcs-west-66-27-52-190.biz.rr.com [66.27.52.190]) by mailspool3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103ED1B4D21 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 20:33:50 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from seh by torus.sehlabs.com with local (Exim 4.24) id HRCSCK-0001U4-1X for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:33:56 -0800 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 2004 10:00:22 +1000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1004 (Gnus v5.10.4) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, cygwin32) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55948 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55948 Steve Youngs writes: > Seems to work fine here. It looks like you made ~/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/gnus a symlink rather than making ~/.xemacs/site-packages a symlink and expecting XEmacs to find stuff beneath (say, lisp/gnus). In any case, I tried your symlink approach. Just to make sure we're talking about the same thing, I have: ~/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/gnus symlinked to ~/usr/local/lib/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/gnus The latter contains a working Gnus installation built from a recent CVS snapshot. auto-autoloads.el(c) is there. When I start up XEmacs as xemacs -q, I get (locate-library "gnus") => nil (featurep 'gnus-autoloads) => nil $ file /home/seh/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/gnus => bash: file: command not found Well, anyway, per above, => /home/seh/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/gnus: symbolic link to /home/seh/usr/local/lib/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/gnus (member "/home/seh/usr/local/lib/xemacs/site-packages/lisp/gnus" load-path) => nil (member "/home/seh/.xemacs/site-packages/lisp/gnus/" load-path) => nil > I don't understand where yours has gone wrong, Steven. Could this be a Cygwin problem? I've tried it on XEmacs 21.4.13 on up-to-date Cygwin atop both Windows 2000 and Windows XP, with the same results in both cases. Is there a variable (besides the obvious load-path) that I can inspect to see if XEmacs includes ~/.xemacs/site-packages as part of its initial path to find these autoload files? When I start with xemacs -q, the default load-path is (gulp): ("/usr/local/lib/xemacs/site-lisp/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/apel/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/auctex/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/bbdb/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/c-support/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/calc/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/calendar/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/cc-mode/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/debug/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/dictionary/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/dired/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ecb/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edebug/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ediff/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/edit-utils/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/efs/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eieio/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/elib/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/emerge/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eshell/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eterm/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/eudc/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/footnote/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/fsf-compat/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/hm--html-menus/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/igrep/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ilisp/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ispell/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mail-lib/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/mmm-mode/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/net-utils/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/os-utils/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pc/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pcl-cvs/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/pcomplete/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/perl-modes/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/prog-modes/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ps-print/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/psgml/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/psgml-dtds/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/python-modes/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/reftex/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ruby-modes/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sasl/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/scheme/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/semantic/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sgml/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sh-script/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/sounds-wav/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/speedbar/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/texinfo/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/text-modes/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/textools/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/time/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/tramp/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/vc/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/view-process/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/viper/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/w3/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/x-symbol/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-base/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-devel/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/zenirc/" "/usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.13/lisp/") Note that there's nothing under my home directory. -- Steven E. Harris